It's called Parental Control software.
this post was submitted on 16 Jan 2024
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I would say it is Government Parental Control, the government is your parent π
Expect parents to be minimally responsible? No way!
I know the EU is still kicking around the concept of making itself a root CA and each country an intermediate in that chain, then legally mandating the installation of that CA on all devices. This is dangerous as hell as it effectively defeats the purpose of TLS and gives the government(s) a way to decrypt all HTTPS traffic using those bogus cert chains.
Spoiler: you won't stop minors from accessing porn.
Spoiler: Governments will also follow you across the whole web, not just porn.
They can follow me and everyone else who downloaded my digital cert I ~~posted~~ lost control of.
Or we just download Tor and be done with this non-sense.
You either can tell that the same certificate was used 1000000 times in one day which means they are being tracked or you don't track it and one leaked cert can be used by all the minors in Spain. So it's either useless of bad for privacy.
So the biggest issues in Spain over the last years is kids watching porn? Really? Spain has been through a shitstorm and this is what they think of. This is just an excuse to generalise the use of digital identity certificates for all the stuff they want.
- this isnβt even a left or right thing, since its government is an amalgamation of left parties
It's a classic excuse now. Let's you do set any law.
But think of the children!!
So the govt will know who and when watches porn. lol
Theyβll know which adults visit porn sites without a VPN anyway.
Kids are and will be significantly more creative.
I find tracking all individuals way more dangerous long term than the effects of unmediated internet use.
Parents should be more involved in children's digital use.
Does outlawing Marijuana stop minors from accessing it? No, I started smoking young. Does requiring an ID stop minors from drinking alcohol? I'm sure many of you will attest to underage drinking
However, tracking everyone doing everything, tracking whatever they say whatever they look at. That impacts everyone, not just minors.
When you phrase it that way, it becomes all the more obvious that it's not really about the porn.
The whole age verification can be done privately, secure and without the possibility to get tracked. But imho still not really a good thing to do. Parenting should still be a thing.
Same discussion can be found here https://lemmy.ml/comment/6775132
Thank you for the links to Wikipedia and identity.com on that other thread. I've yet to wrap my head around how zero-knowledge proof could work for such a basic assertion as "user is of legal age", which calls for a 0 or 1 answer. It seems very different from the examples given of polynomial computations to prove knowledge of an exponent in a complex math expression. I can't see what could prevent any client to simply lie about the answer here.
But that refers to personal data, and I suppose the state will be able to identify you and your habits if it gets the logs from the websites.
I wonder if the websites will get a unique identifier, that would allow them to track you so accurately it would make google horny.
Have you even read the linked Wikipedia or the Website? No. When implemented correctly the math shows that it is not possible.
I read the article and did not see where the method is specified, have you even read it?
When implemented correctly
Aha. How bold to assume that they will limit themselves and apply privacy best practices.
... All i ever said is that it is possible. And i am referring to the article posted behind the link i posted.
Any implementation can be flawed even if well intentioned. There are implementations of this, for example the German ID Personalausweis has this method implemented.
Okay, now I see which article you are referring to.
I know knowledge-zero, but we have different points, mine was not about the inability to do it but how the government will do it.
It would be very easy for them to justify that they have to identify pedos, I would be very surprised if they would guarantee privacy. But whatever, unfortunately I guess we'll find out.
Looks like another govt relying on majority that has no idea about how internet works. It won't stop kids, but pr0n sites and their partners will certainly get richer.
It is the parents job to watch their damn kids. Or force isps to include simple blocklist toggles in their supplied routers so the parents can make a decision.
We already have digital certificates to identify ourselves on government websites to access services.
Most likely the implementation will require sites to demand the cert for verification. What happens after that is the privacy creep
Just put the porn on the government websites. Problem solved.
This is exactly what will not happen. They clearly talking about different certificate. Read the article.
I canβt because I refuse their cookies and then itβs subscription