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[–] [email protected] 30 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Man, I really, really wish the writers had the foresight and carefulness in their writing to come up with some acceptable phlebotinum justifying why transporter clones and other various transporter transformations not just don't, but indeed can't happen.

I get that it makes for some plotlines, but it also makes for so much idiotic fridge logic. Like "why don't they save a pattern buffer copy of EVERY away team in case of emergency" or "why isn't the federation using a volunteer clone army for military engagements" or indeed what we here.

Or even "why isn't federation surgery just loading someone into the transporter buffer then editing their XML to fix the injury".

And don't even get me started by the wasted potential of holography, especially during and post-Voyager.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

Or at least DISCO had used its 31st century setting to explore sci-fi concepts around any of these ideas. Like full on Iain M Banks The Culture, restoring people from their most recent mind state back up.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The T.O.G. has a moratorium on unauthorized cloning, and you DON'T. EVER. disobey T.O.G. directives.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Honestly, I can almost buy that explanation.

...until you realize that even the Jem'Hadar won't do it. They had transporters, right? I could maybe buy that the Romulans, Cardassians, and Klingons would refuse to do it based on some combination of pride and honor, maybe. I could never buy that an organization like Section 31 wouldn't, though, or any number of the monster-of-the-week species.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

That obviously just means the T.O.G. is a pan-galactic body, that's infiltrated every technologically advanced society... You know they're crazy, if not even the Jem'Hadar will cross them.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

The Bene Gesserit would like a word with you sir...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I bet the T.O.G somehow managed to transport over to the Kelvin universe and grab that "single person intergalactic handheld transporter and some other bullshit that lets a person transport to Kronos from Earth with no ship because j.j. Abrams dont give no shits about star trek" device.

Once you have access to that tech, you can use it to tag anyone anywhere and toss them into the nearest star with nary a word.

No shit no one fucks with the T.O.G.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

One which, I imagine, will only ever be hinted at, but never embraced.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

They did a resurrection in Star Trek lower decks

[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Well this is genius. I need this to replace that Jesse format so bad...

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago

template's here, if anyone wants it

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

High praise from one of our resident memeologists! thanks! <3

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You would think Troi would have learned by now never to ask Barclay such a question!:-O

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (2 children)

She probably asked "How are you feeling, Reg?"

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

"Guilty about what I did to you 10 minutes ago in the holodeck"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

Punish me!

-Barclay

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

OMG you are probably right! :-P

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

O'Brien has access to this power, but chooses not to extend his own suffering. He already got sentenced to one extra life, and that was enough for him

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

But how do you maintain youth without also losing that knowledge if this is done by making copies of yourself?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Uhhh... ask Keiko...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

It's already established that transporters can edit someone's DNA, so that would be a way to prevent aging and treating genetic diseases. If you have a way to duplicate the buffers then you could make a backup for cases when someone dies from an accident at the cost of a few hours of memories.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

So they can store people in the buffer like in the new Star Trek or can they make copies of people

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

TNG s6e4 "Relics" demonstrated the ability to sustain a buffer pattern almost indefinitely.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Voyager did it too when they were smuggling the telepaths through devore space

And SNW with the

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doctor's sick daughter

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The latter is connected with my favorite s1 episode. It requires the build-up of episodes past, but the payoff hits so hard. Not to mention, it's the silliest damn episode this side of TOS.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

it’s the silliest damn episode

That's a hard competition with the next few ones on the series.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It was always my understanding, that people are stored digitally in the transporter buffer, so of course they could be stored there for extended periods of time. That's also why I was surprised when people argued that you cant copy people with the teleporter. For me it always was a remote replicator

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

I like to think this is the prequel to the Barclay greentext about committing suicide via launching a giant Troi at himself