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[–] [email protected] 73 points 9 months ago (40 children)

That would homestly be nice. It's not about Eurovision, but about sending a message. If Russia gets banned from many activities for invading a sovereign country, Israel should get the same treatment for doing what is (at best) the same.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 9 months ago (14 children)

Might as well ban Germany alongside too. Our government claimed that the case brought forth by South Africa was "without any basis" the moment the hearing at the ICJ ended. Now that the ICJ has demanded preliminary measures and explicitly stated that the Palestinians are at a plausible risk of genocide, the government tried to spin-doctor it, that "without any basis" would be a normal way of communicating different opinions on a legal case. Oh and on the day of the hearing the German genocide against the Herero and Nama people in todays Namibia had it's 120 years anniversary. The German government did not deem it necessary to adress the fact in any formal way to Namibia or anyone else.

Except for 2018 the last decade was a total embarassement anyways and the spot should be taken by a country whose artists actually make it by ability instead of the spot being paid for.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Simply removing them on the grounds of not being European should be easy enough and have happened as soon as they were let it. Same with Australia.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (10 children)

So you also want to kick out all the Arab states because they're "not European"? The EBU has always included the whole Mediterranean. It has Arab founding members.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago (7 children)

I know it's not really about Eurovision, but honestly who cares about Eurovision

[–] [email protected] 36 points 9 months ago (3 children)

There are dozens of us! Dozens!

But seriously, it’s the gay musical Olympics, what’s not to love? (Unless you’re from Germany/UK in which it’s a point of national pride to dismiss Eurovision, lol?)

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Only because Germany/UK is dismissed by Eurovision. Sam Ryder was robbed 2022

And no way did Lord of the Lost deserve last place 2023. UK might have.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (4 children)

No, Germany loves to watch Eurovision, we don't care, that our own country sucks all the time. By now it's more of a meme and people are betting, how bad it's gonna be this year.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I, for one, think that given the recent history and the farce that was the Electric Callboy situation we should from now on send metal acts with steadily increasing levels of heavyness until Europe capitulates.

(The "Electric Callboy situation" was the NDR judging that this song was "not suited for radio play". It's one of the most eurovision things ever produced. German radio stations commented the situation by playing it on heavy rotation)

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I'm British and we're obsessed with Eurovision, we also enjoy losing.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I don’t care about it, but 162 million people watched it last year 🤷

[–] [email protected] 29 points 9 months ago (1 children)

For fellow Americans.... That's almost 50% more than the Super Bowl (113 million in 2023).

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 months ago (2 children)

The entire country of sweden

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (2 children)

As a swede I can tell you that statement is not true.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago

My girlfriend goes absolutely nuts for it. We tune into the national selections.

The songs are usually pretty good and it's cute AF to see her getting worked up.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago

Very good, we need more of that. Countries which openly and actively do genocide should at least feel that the world thinks it's not OK.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago

Based. Fuck israel

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

what if they choose someone who sings about wanting a two state solution

[–] [email protected] 28 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They’re not gonna. The broadcaster that represents Israel in Eurovision even shared a song on twitter with children singing “Within a year we will annihilate everyone” in Gaza. Before deleting it fearing it would make them complicit in genocide.

https://www.snopes.com/news/2023/11/20/israeli-children-singing-annihilate-gaza/

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Good to see it didn't spread beyond this small fascist group: "The Civil Front".

Civil?

"The movement is non-political in nature" Oh really?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (14 children)

I'm American so I have never followed Eurovision. I always assumed it was European only. Are there many none European countries that participate? The USA doesn't right?

[–] [email protected] 44 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Israel and Australia participate.

Israel has been since 1973 because their national broadcaster is part of the European Broadcasting Union.

Australia has had a huge cult following and was initially only allowed to join for a one-off year in 2015, but because of the success they've been allowed to take part every year since.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago

Au has a lot of immigrants from the EU - but also our international TV station SBS is part of the EU broadcast union

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

The whole Mediterranean is part of the EBU, at least Lebanon and Morocco are even founding members -- the list isn't easy to read because it lists when a broadcaster joined, not when the country first joined with any broadcaster.

The Arab nations boycott the ESC though because Israel participates. So, please, if you suspend Israel do it early enough so that those states have an opportunity to do a national selection.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

The Eurovision Song Contest is organized by the European Broadcasting Union (EBU) an organization set up to regulate TV tech. In short they exist to make sure a TV bought in Spain also works in Sweden. As such the EBU also grants full membership to countries that are not part of Europe but have strong economic ties with the continent and therefore are part of the European Broadcasting Area. That's how we got Israel in the contest. Australia also competes because (a) they are an associate member (b) they have an long history of airing the contest even before they competed (c) they spend a large sum of money every year to make the EBU forget where exactly Australia is located.

The US doesn't participate but a couple of years ago NBC bought the rights and tried to mount an "American Song Contest". It didn't work all that well because it was hamstrung by the rigid structure of American network TV. The ESC works (in part) because it is three nights only and they tried to make an entire season of television.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

Australia is in the contest. Do what you want with that info.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

Everyone should turn up but only sing songs about how Israel are a bunch of cunts.

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