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Evan Paul was playing his second game in net for the North Vancouver Wolf Pack when a fight erupted in the third period of his team's Jan. 25 game against the Richmond Sockeyes at Minoru Arena.

Video of the fight shows Richmond defenceman Eithan Grishin over top of Paul with his arms around the goaltender for close to 20 seconds. When Grishin lets go, Paul slumps to the ice.

Grishin, 19, was (previously) suspended 16 games for incidents earlier this season, according to the PJHL website.

On Nov. 16, he received a 13-game suspension — five games for harassment of an official, three games as supplemental discipline, two games after receiving a game misconduct for being the third man in a fight, and three games as supplemental discipline for being a repeat offender.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago

Asshat suspended for 16 games needs to get bounced out entirely.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Sigh, is it really that hard to ban repeat offenders from playing a sport that should be for professional. Sure if somehow a random league wants repeat offender as the image of the league, fair enough. so be it.

But a provincial league?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, there's almost certainly a lawsuit coming, if BC hockey's lawyers are saying anything besides "keep your mouth shut for the next while" I'd be stunned.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Why shit like this doesn't instantly result in criminal assault charges is beyond my comprehension.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Esp since he had the goalie in a hold straight out of the UFC.

Hope he gets the boot from hockey altogether. He has no right to be playing any contact sport.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (3 children)

"We can't ban fighting in hockey!"

Fuck off, how come most sports don't have fights but hockey players are special like that?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Most sports don't have the levels of speed or physical contact that hockey does. These players can hit each other at 25mph(40kmph) which is almost twice the speed of football contacts (and 4 times the energy due to e = mv^2)

There's a really difficult line between "accident" and accident that the refs can't properly handle, which is why fighting is there to ensure that "accidents" don't happen as often.

Everything from that extra little poke at a goalie's glove covering the puck to a hit on a player that was vulnerable matters.

Some players abuse it, but that's true for everything. Most of the time it does its job just fine.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

How does any of that have anything to do with this guy literally strangling the goalie until unconsciousness?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

Because the guy wasn't responding to that prompt. He was responding to the question:

Fuck off, how come most sports don’t have fights but hockey players are special like that?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Fights don’t do that, the refs do

If the rules don’t allow them to protect players then they need to be changed

The NHL’s problem is that refs are there to keep the games tied so it’s more fun to watch but that issue doesn’t exist here

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

No they don't. Refs can't deal with intent, only result.

At the speed of hockey, there are a ton of actually accidental contacts that occur. I got hit two days ago in a no-hitting league, and both of us know it was a complete accident because neither of us could stop in time.

That's exactly why I said refs can't tell the difference between someone making an intentional bad hit and someone who just didn't quite turn out out of the way in time because they didn't notice early enough.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

There should be no incidental contact in your example

As per the example the two of you were going too fast, that wouldn’t happen if the threat of being removed from the league over accidental contact existed

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That wouldn't be hockey anymore.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

And if soccer was played on a pitch then it wouldn’t be soccer anymore

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Agreeing with you for the most part, but e = mc^2 isn't the relevant equation here. That only works if we're literally annihilating the players out of existence, which might be worth more than the maximum fine allowed by the NHL Collective Bargaining Agreement. Maybe. More sanguine here would be momentum, which is merely a product of mass and velocity.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

I think you're confusing what I actually typed (e = mv^2) with e = mc^2. What I typed is literally mass times velocity squared, and it's the equation for kinetic energy.

Edit: Oops, missed the 1/2 part, but that's not really relevant to the discussion or results anyways.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

I was also getting at momentum, but I'm an idiot. This is what I get for being an engineer without coffee.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Fuck. I messed up trying to save your message and tripped myself instead. Derp moment here, folks.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

There is a video in the article that shows what happened and it had sfa to do with speed.

Going off topic to justify all the violence that happens in hockey isn't the argument you think it is.

Are there times shit happens without intent? Ofc there is. But in this instance that is obviously not the case.

Watch the video

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

I didn't respond to discussions about this incident. I responded to someone else going off topic.

So fuck right off.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Fighting is fine. There are rules surrounding fighting in hockey, like there are rules in boxing and mma and tackle football and every other contact sport.

Choking is attempted murder. That should be an immediate lifetime ban from the sport at all levels and criminal charges should be filed.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Video of the fight shows Richmond defenceman Eithan Grishin over top of Paul with his arms around the goaltender for close to 20 seconds.

A game summary states the defenceman received a match penalty for a blow to the head.

In a statement issued Sunday, the North Vancouver Wolf Pack said Paul had suffered a "severe injury" and was recovering at home.

CBC News reached out to PJHL commissioner Trevor Alto but has not heard back.

The Richmond Sockeyes declined comment, calling it a "league matter" and citing a hearing that will be held "soon."

The PJHL is a Tier 2 Junior A league consisting of teams in the Lower Mainland, Fraser Valley and the Sunshine Coast.


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[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

That sounds criminal.

I've played alot of hockey, but you don't choke people.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

"During high school, I played junior hockey and still hold two league records: most time spent in the penalty box; and I was the only guy to ever take off his skate and try to stab somebody." - ~~Happy Gilmore~~ Eithan Grishin