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[–] [email protected] 198 points 9 months ago (3 children)

But it's okay for a pillow salesman to be involved in politics?

[–] [email protected] 117 points 9 months ago (5 children)

What about kid rock? If you can call him a musician....

[–] [email protected] 92 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

What about a reality TV celebrity like, oh I don't know, Donald Trump?

[–] [email protected] 34 points 9 months ago (1 children)

A movie star, like Raygun?

[–] [email protected] 28 points 9 months ago (3 children)

A bodybuilder, like Arnold?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago

Tbf the Governator was actually half decent.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago (2 children)

A comedian, like Al Franken?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

A wrestler, like Jesse Ventura?

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[–] [email protected] 154 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 80 points 9 months ago (7 children)

And to this day she has yet to say anything pro democrat or pro-republican. That's the funniest part.

[–] [email protected] 139 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Well, telling people to vote is pretty anti-conservative.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Also, the Chiefs are partly owned and ran by a guy that has made several donations to the Republican party. Not a lot of money over all, but consistently Republican.

I wish the Democratic party was as competent as these nutjobs think they are. I imagine the country would be in a much better place.

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[–] [email protected] 87 points 9 months ago (2 children)

What's funny is that she hasn't endorsed anyone. But they keep raising such a stink on the mere thought that she might endorse Biden and have demanded that she doesn't voice her Biden endorsement far and wide to the point, now, it has become assumed by most that she does endorse him. If anyone does, in fact, give a damn about her endorsement, the wackos yelling on the right have made her de facto position a pro-Biden position. Exactly what they're complaining about. Now she doesn't even need to endorse him in order to basically endorse him. Dolts.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 9 months ago (1 children)

She’s been speaking out against the Supreme Court killing Roe, and she’s shown that she can drive registration with young woman. And young women are swing left of center.

She doesn’t have to endorse anyone to terrify the right.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Your ideology is total shit when the mere suggestion that citizens should vote as they please is a threat to your existence. The GOP's days are numbered.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Unless they get away with suppressing the vote. Which they’ve been very successful at.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

she hasn't endorsed anyone.

Well, she did endorse Biden in 2020. Don't see why she would have changed her mind one bit in 2024.>

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[–] [email protected] 72 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Conservatives say they think musicians should stay out of politics. The same conservatives celebrate Kid Rock, Ted Nugent, Trace Adkins and any other piece of shit who loudly encourages their audience to vote for a seditious rapist.

It's almost like conservatives are just liars who are fully incapable of honesty on any topic.

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Wait until the swifties think she is in danger.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Let's be real, with as bat shit crazy as these cultists are, she probably is.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 9 months ago (1 children)

MAGAts vs. Swifties 2024, I'd pay to watch that.

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 9 months ago (3 children)

It is hilarious how terrified Republicans are of Taylor Swift.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 9 months ago (2 children)

For people who loathe being told what to do, they sure do like telling other people what to do.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

GOP voters are literally afraid of everything, that's their whole world view. They're afraid of immigrants looking for asylum, people who've left their home out of desperation. They're afraid of transgender folks, who already face all sorts of discrimination in their personal lives. The GOP is afraid of the world and so they punch down on whoever they see as weakest to make themselves feel better about themselves.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Fox claims they themselves are just an entertainment network, not news. Shouldn't they stay out of politics just like they want her to?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago

They are only an entertainment network in the courtroom.

In the hearts and minds of their viewers, they are the very arbiter of Truth.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Fox news has literally won lawsuits on the pretense that their content isn't news and is entertainment and no reasonable person would take it seriously.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago

Didn't know that. Had to look it up.

Carlson claimed that McDougal attempted to extort money from Trump—though she never asked Trump for money or even approached him. McDougal sued, and in response Fox’s legal team argued that his comments “cannot reasonably be interpreted as facts.”

Judge Mary Kay Vyskocil—district judge of the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York—heard the case and agreed, finding that “given Mr. Carlson’s reputation, any reasonable viewer ‘arrive[s] with an appropriate amount of skepticism’ about the statements he makes” and that “this overheated rhetoric is precisely the kind of pitched commentary that one expects when tuning in to talk shows like Tucker Carlson Tonight, with pundits debating the latest political controversies.”

“The Court concludes that the statements are rhetorical hyperbole and opinion commentary intended to frame a political debate, and, as such, are not actionable as defamation,” wrote Vyskocil in her ruling.

Carlson isn’t the only opinion show host to win a lawsuit with such a defense: David Folkenflik of NPR noted that Rachel Maddow’s lawyers used a similar argument to convince a judge to dismiss a libel lawsuit brought by One America News Network. The judge ruled that Maddow’s comments about an OANN reporter being “on the payroll for the Kremlin” could reasonably be understood to be opinion.

But while Fox’s lawyers argued Carlson’s opinion show should not be taken for news, Fox hasn’t argued that all of its content is “entertainment” as Occupy Democrats claims. Fox News is currently facing a defamation lawsuit from Dominion Voting Systems, which alleges that Fox’s coverage of the 2020 election promoted baseless conspiracy theories about Dominion voting machines. While the argument that some of the coverage was opinion was part of the Fox legal defense, the network’s attorneys put forth the argument that sharing Dominion conspiracy theories was part of “neutral reportage” of allegations made by public figures and a “fair report” of legal proceedings.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm not entirely sure I understand the republican strategy around Taylor Swift.

Like, doesn't harassing her for basically no reason only increase the likelihood that she does get involved in political battles, not reduce?

This just seems like another hair-brained, half thought through plan.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Nobody ever accused Republicans of being smart

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 9 months ago

Something something Streisand effect?

[–] [email protected] 32 points 9 months ago

Why? Just because Fox News doesn’t broadcast anything vaguely affiliated with real world politics doesn’t mean others can’t talk about it.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 9 months ago

Taylor Swift to Fox News: "Don't call yourself a news outlet!"

[–] [email protected] 26 points 9 months ago

That's rich coming from the network that's been fellating a reality tv star 24/7 for 8 years.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago

They certainly feel threatened

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They said- while hitching their wagon to a failed reality TV personality.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago

Taylor Swift is grabbing conservatives by their collective pussies and they don’t like it.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Has she said or done anything? Or are they just afraid she might?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (3 children)

She's endorsed Democrats in past years and encouraged people to vote. They're mostly afraid that she will actually endorse Biden this year, even though she hasn't actually done anything.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

She baked a blue cookie one time or some shit.

Generally, she just encourages her fans to vote, and Republicans know young women don't want anything to with them. They really just want to make it so uncomfortable for Swift to say anything, so they're bringing a preemptive firestorm and hoping she keeps her head down this election season.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I saw a video of her speaking to her parents during a Brian Taylor Cohen video :

Here

So I don't know much about her generally, other than she is famous in her own right for her art and business savvy. So my opinion about her has long been uninformed neutral.

But what I see in that video gives me a respect for her that otherwise I wouldn't have. She knows how important a vote is, she is self reflective, she stands up for herself and her own choices, she is obviously informed on issues, and she is compassionate towards others. These things are a good measure of a person.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago

Looks like they are afraid. Good. Keep it coming.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Leave...Taylor...ALONE! :p

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

But hey, let’s ask Kid Rock what he thinks about national debt

Fuck republicunts

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Yeah. Look what it did to Fox News. Turned them from a sack of shit to a treasonous sack of shit.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (13 children)

Taylor Swift will be 35 years old before the inauguration. There is still time to sub her in as vice president.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

They're all entertainers. I don't see the difference except Taylor Swift has a day job.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

This article discusses reactions from some Fox News commentators to the possibility of Taylor Swift endorsing President Biden in the 2024 election. Sean Hannity, Jeanine Pirro, and others on Fox News urged Swift not to get involved in politics. Some speculated that Swift's relationship with Travis Kelce was engineered by Democrats. Hannity drew a connection between Swift and George Soros, noting Soros' son helped fund the sale of Swift's song catalog. However, not all at Fox News were negative - sports analyst Jay Glazer praised Swift as a "genius" and saw nothing problematic about her or the NFL. In summary, several Fox News personalities strongly discouraged Swift from supporting Biden, while at least one commentator admired her musical talents.

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