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    [–] [email protected] 177 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    I've installed a lot of software.

    Not once did I give a fleeting fuck about the meat around the brain who made it.

    Nice brain, though. THANKS, BRAIN!!

    [–] [email protected] 79 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

    The body still needs feeding, though. Support open source developers!

    (And trans rights, we don't want the BRAIN to potentially feel uncomfortable in there)

    [–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

    Nice brain, though. THANKS, BRAIN!!

    Penny and The Inspector get no respect, I tell ya, no respect.

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    [–] [email protected] 145 points 8 months ago (11 children)

    Can someone tell me where all the trans FOSS devs/enthusiasts hang out IRL, I need friends 🥺

    ~Signed, a lonely trans FOSS enthusiast (not a programmer sadly, maybe I just need thigh high socks...)

    [–] [email protected] 232 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    FOSS devs/enthusiasts

    hang out IRL

    [–] [email protected] 97 points 8 months ago

    I'm laughing but it hurts 😭

    [–] [email protected] 62 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    Highly recommend picking up programming.

    1. Many communities are very welcoming.

    2. Worse case scenario, you end up loving programming and making it in a career and making a lot of money.

    Best case scenario, you contribute to open source.

    1. There's lots of sources out there to get started. Best part, lots of online communities too.
    [–] [email protected] 20 points 8 months ago (7 children)

    I am too dumb brain for programming :(

    I've tried a few times in the past to get into it but I just get overwhelmed. I'm frankly amazed by and so thankful for all the programmers who contribute to all of the great libre software I use. I am stuck at the level of knowing more about computers than essentially everyone I know or encounter, while simultaneously being a complete and utter noob to anyone who actually understands computing. I just know how to use search engines and follow instructions written by people smarter than me.

    [–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago

    Don't discount yourself. I'm dumb as shit. There's a lot of dumb programmers. We just know a handful of things and kept beating our heads at it until suddenly, it works.

    Keep picking up things every year and after a few years, suddenly you know more than others and they keep promoting you.

    [–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

    I just know how to use search engines and follow instructions written by people smarter than me.

    99% of being a programmer is knowing what to Google, so you're halfway there.

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    [–] [email protected] 27 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    Trans dev here, I hear that hacker spaces aren't bad places to look. I wouldn't know though, too shy to actually show up -.-

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    [–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago

    Hey! I'm a trans FOSS enthusiast studying computer science and I hope to be a FOSS dev sometime in the future.

    I stay inside pretty much all day. In terms of hanging out irl, the closest I do is vc lol. It actually would be nice to hang out with someone irl though.

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    [–] [email protected] 85 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    > hate ur job

    > follow the white rabbit

    > escape the matrix

    > thank you trans woman

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    [–] [email protected] 60 points 8 months ago

    How and why is this so relatable? Literally since I started on lemmy there have been a bunch of FOSS projects lead or solely developed by trans coders ( pun semi intended).

    More recently one of the lemmy apps I started on was as well and it looks pretty decently written. Hope they’re doing well wherever they are now.

    [–] [email protected] 47 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    Shout out to the two Legends I've encountered while learning about or building projects:

    Christine Lemmer-Webber is the lead dev of Activitypub

    Leah Rowe is Libre Boot

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    [–] [email protected] 47 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

    Alternate version:

    > use the internet

    > it works

    > thank you furries

    (for whatever reason, there seems to be an overrepresentation of furries in network admin roles)

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    [–] [email protected] 39 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    I don't get it, can someone explain?

    [–] [email protected] 100 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    There seems to be an over representation of visible trans women among independent open source programers.

    [–] [email protected] 30 points 8 months ago (13 children)

    I have not seen a single piece of reliable evidence to show that this is true. There may be a louder minority in that specific area, but so far nothing indicates it is an actual overrepresentation.

    [–] [email protected] 37 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

    Minority, yes, but not louder if you want to see loud trans women they're there on Instagram with the rest of all the oversensitive-vulnerable narcissist personality types (subclinical but quite annoying indeed).

    As I see it trans folks gravitate towards general nerddom precisely because it doesn't have to do anything with sex or gender, is a refuge for people who don't really feel like they fit in with the majority. Not to dismiss the existence of sexist etc. asshats calling themselves nerds, by and large noone bats an eye if you'r AMAB but play a flirty female elf rogue in AD&D. And as far as contributing to an open source project is concerned you could be a literal cat and people would barely notice.

    [–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago

    If it was a literal cat contributing to FOSS I'd like to cuddle it and buy it old Thinkpads

    [–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Yea, n I unintentionally fked it up here too for one such person. So I was discussing solutions for a problem that I had encountered with my project on Matrix. I didn't know it then, but I was talking to a trans woman then. Now, I had a habit of "yessirrr"-ing when I was excited. So I found the solution, and in my excited state, I said "yessirrr" somewhere. She immediately corrected me by saying that it was "yes ma'am". I apologized and explained the situation. I then looked at her bio, and it had the flag and all that. She unfortunately ghosted me after that incident :(.

    So yeah... I've tried to have inclusive language n whatnot after that. Cuz uk... U never realise how heteronormative our language is and how not inclusive it is for many many people.

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    [–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    I don't mean to be disrespectful, but the main dev of Elementary OS is trans. And I think one of the devs behind Asahi Linux.

    There is a slight association. Not a bad thing, there are probably more examples too. But those are the ones that immediately came to mind.

    [–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

    I am aware. But that makes 2 out of how many?

    Look, i'm not trying to attack a group here. I'm just having the habit of calling out bullshit when i see it. That there is a larger proportion of trans people in FOSS is a myth. It's based on memes that have gotten out of control.

    In FOSS specifically, the opposite has been true for a long time and there has been a severe lack of diversity. That has thankfully improved a lot and the environment has now become much more colorful and has adapted to the reality of the general population. But that's all there is to it. There is no significant overrepresentation, at least I haven't found anything that would prove that.

    [–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago

    I've observed this over representation in graphics programming and games development as well. Now that I type it out, I wonder if it's perhaps less over representation and more, just, seeing those people, now.

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    [–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    Compared to the invisible women

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    [–] [email protected] 23 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

    There seems to be an oddly large overlap (tbh I'm not sure if just in memes or in real life) between linux users (particularly arch and nixos), foss devs, and lgbt+ people (also rust, nim, and go devs lol).

    [–] [email protected] 43 points 8 months ago (11 children)

    The various "neurodiverse" communities seem to be meshing together more and more. A good chunk of them are autistic, or ADHD dominated interest groups, like FOSS, or various hobbies. It also includes the LGBT+ crowd.

    This mixing allows for a lot of cross pollination of ideas. The trans community hears a lot more about FOSS etc than "normals" and so are more likely to get involved. Conversely, the techies have more exposure to alternative lifestyles. Some, who would traditionally do all they could to fit in, now are willing to show off/become who they really are.

    The community meshing also helps by its supportive nature. Most NDs have experienced being the outsider to society. The nature of the cause is often very different, but the effects are similar. This makes the community particularly accepting of differences, as well as people experimenting with change.

    Basically, all the weirdos got together and realised "Apes together, Strong!". We are now running with it more and more.

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    [–] [email protected] 33 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (5 children)

    I don't plan on actually doing this, but would this be appropriate to send to a trans coworker who I work with, but don't actually have a relationship with outside of work? We don't have any history of sharing memes or anything.

    For context, she's one of the senior devops engineers at my company

    [–] [email protected] 82 points 8 months ago

    If you have to ask, no

    [–] [email protected] 75 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Personally, I wouldn’t want to receive a meme that assumes some level of familiarity with me from a co-worker if we never had that relationship before.

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    [–] [email protected] 34 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

    I would say get to know her more first and then see what kind of humour she has.

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    [–] [email protected] 23 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    Personally I feel like if you have to ask, I'd lean towards caution and not sending it. I mean, best case she gets a chuckle out of it, worse case it kinda creeps her out.

    If you're unambiguously an ally and she has seen proof of/knows this, most trans people I know would be fine with it. I'm not sure the risk/reward is worth it though (and tbh I'd say the same for sending memes to any coworkers one's not on more familiar terms with)

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    [–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago

    I'd say no. This is a bit of a risque type of humour. There's so much here that could be misunderstood, and it requires some context which they might not know or appreciate.

    I think generally memes about marginalised groups should be avoided entirely in work environments unless said groups are extremely normalised.

    [–] [email protected] 29 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    Almost all of the women I've met in tech are lesbian. I don't see the connection but its true.

    [–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

    Funny! Majority of the women in my eng program are straight, I am also not strictly one way or the other. Something something greedy Bis. Edit actually Pan, not Bi.

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    [–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago

    Transwomen do be contributing significantly to society at large, hell yea transwomen!

    [–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago

    And of it does not work you might need to install some magic shit. Like portals, or demons.

    [–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    I might be an old millenial, but I didn't get the joke

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