As native Moscovite, I can confirm that I've already scalped 3 Wagnerites and one very confused German composer.
this post was submitted on 13 Jun 2023
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Isn't he already decomposing though?
As a Russian, currently living in Moscow, can say this is bullshit. MD force other military volunteers squads to sign contract. Only Wagner Group declined.
Fuck war.
Not terribly credible. The reddit thread I first saw it on had a translated MoD announcement that only said Wagner were treasonous (but not shoot on sight) and some people arguing that the Russian version looked fake.
Definitely grain of salt for now.
So what you’re saying is, it’s non-credible? 😂
This won't load for me. Not sure the link works.
Weird. Seems videos from other domains don't work, even other fediverse domains. Anyway, switched it to a gif link so it works.
I'm making a Lemmy app, and I'm pretty good at convincing media to work even when it's reluctant (and as I'm making the app I want to use, everything should eventually be able to auto play)
Could you break down the specifics for me? Preferably with links and any other details/thoughts you have on hand
Ya, weird. I do see it now. Cheers. Thanks for the question. Interesting post.
We’re debugging on main here
Remember, no Russian. Or Remember, all Russian.
Верно говоришь, товарищ.
I've been asleep for two weeks, just woke up.
Totally not credible, get a fucking clue.
Thanks for the clarification 🤠
No wonder Russia has been human waving Wagner, trying to thin the ranks (No clue if this is credible, but if it isn't, it just fits here better)
like a true nazi state, russia wants to get rid of undesirables: criminals and the extremely gullibile (through wagner), minorities, the clueless an debtors (mobiks). you'll find out that mobilization orders weren't taken very seriously in moscow, but were in bashkiria and tuva (at least at the beginning). far east has few jobs available, in one far eastern region like half of population is in inescapable debt. army gives stable if shitty job. you can dodge draft if you know who to pay but if you don't have money, this doesn't work
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How strong is Wagner compared to Russian military? Are we talking ~1/10 of the strength, 1/100, 1/1000?
I don't think its helpful to draw a distinction between the two. Wagner is part of Russia's military.
wagner had 50k in dec 2022 and it was probably peak, before february 2022 ru army had 300k active duty, so i'd say it's somewhere between 1/10 and 1/100. closer to 1/100
The main problem is that if they really started fighting, Wagner is wholly reliant on the Russian army to support them with ammunition. Wagner has no logistics and would quickly crumble from it.
oh yeah this counts manpower only, and maybe small arms and some light equipment are in similar proportions. wagner has, for its size, little heavy equipment, virtually no engineering equipment, and shoiguu where is my ammunition
Would it be good for Ukraine if they supported wagner, even just a little bit, if they decide to turn against Putin? Maybe just enough to keep them a threat, but not enough to give them a chance of achieving anything significant.
Wow thats a lot more than I expected. I thought they are just a loud bunch of mercenaries. They can actually do some decent damage if they decide to turn on putin.
that was their peak, remember just bakhmut ground down low tens of thousands of them (20k? 25k?)
I never really paid a lot of attention to the numbers. I'll definitely start now.
Look at the post's date, when the active rebellion happened, and the fact that there is nothing going on now. This was likely a hoax.
