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It's a good point, but very difficult (maybe even impossible) to achieve. Downvoting to disagree is a kneejerk reaction that is very easy to do, so it's going to require a lot of self discipline to avoid - and I don't think you can expect that from most people.

For this to work, the upvote would likewise have to cease meaning "agree" and instead mean "good answer." Unfortunately that'd be a step too far for most people. At the end of the day, entertainment, not edification, is the primary driver for most people to be on social media. So they need a way to express favor for answers that are enjoyed even if they don't lead to deeper discussion.

Perhaps a three button system would work.

All that said, I also would love there to be less lazy comments.

Your expectation of what upvoting and downvoting represents does not match up with the most intuitive psychological interpretations are - and therefore, it is unrealistic.

However, I will also state that while the problem you perceive is more relevant for comments, having up/downvotes represent Like/Dislike is more appropriate at the Thread/Post level - as the idea for a subreddit is that content users like should be promoted and content they don't want to see should be demoted.

That makes it even more difficult because now you want the arrows to mean different things depending on the area they are used.

You will never break the link between voting and Like/Dislike. However, what you can do is have a separate control to indicate whether a comment is appropriate or not.

Which includes calling it out when you see it. No, "Well, maybe the next person will call them out" - You are a somebody, so call it out

Yeah this is why I'm not a big fan of sites that have "Free Speech" as their number one thing. You can't tolerate the intolerant and freedom from hate speech is more important than unchecked free speech.

We don't want to become Voat

This is the way.

(Not to be.)

IMO if you wanna say "this" then write something more than that to elaborate upon it.

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Yahtzee (of Zero Punctuation) coined the whole “PC Master Race” joke ages ago, and even he regrets it, lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSJKffmWZSk

I don’t mind reposts depending on how it’s reposted:

• A repost from a few weeks ago acknowledging the original post? New people will see it and I don’t mind.
• Karma bots taking the top post of the day and spamming it every 10 minutes across multiple subs for 3 days because users keep upvoting them causing a feedback loop of top posts becoming more identical top posts? That’s annoying.

Nothing's going to stop that, unfortunately. It requires people to do some research first, and most just want to share whatever they found, or ask the question, etc.

Heck, I've been guilty of this

Happy cake day!

Life is political.

So... I shouldn't upvote this comment? I'm confused. :P

No, I think that point is ludicrous.

...seek towards creating healthier and way less toxic communities anyways

this is the main thing I want from a "reddit alternative", but since all the kbins/lemmys are being treated as "reddit alternatives" I really don't see this happening