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Zelensky’s phone call to Macron to inform him that the invasion started (vimeo.com)

submitted 7 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Now this is interesting good find.

It seems at this point, a few hours after the outbreak of the war, Zelensky believing the situation dire enough to start immediate peace talks. Likely drawing similarities with the Coalition invasion of Iraq 2003, as by the time the Iraqi forces started to seriously mobilize, the Coalition was already in Baghdad and all over the country. Difference being of course that the Coalition had planned for a war lasting months; the russians planned for a war lasting days. This is what comes to bite the Russians in the ass.

Putin thought that by driving down the highway P02 straight into Kyiv, the Ukrainian forces would collapse. It's total fantasy of course, and they got bogged down in pitched battles without a solid supply line, ultimately losing the battle for Kyiv.

But you can tell from the video, Zelensky thinks the war might be lost already. And had the Russians planned like the Coalition did in 2003, that might have been the case.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago

Tbf he was a relatively new president, with almost no political experience, in a country that had a military straight out of the cold war.

They (Zelensky and thr UKR army) have come a long way since then

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

I believe kiev is how the Russians call it. The preferred spelling now is "kyiv".

Same as it's not "the Ukraine" which makes it sound like a region of Russia

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (3 children)

What are the chances that this is fake? What is the likelihood that someone recorded this with a cellphone, would Macron even allow this? And of all the sources, it’s some random video on Vimeo with 560 views?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 7 months ago

The clip is from a documentary called "A President, Europe and War" and it is not fake AFAIK.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. There doesn’t have to be conspiracy everywhere. Who would benefit from deception? If you can answer that with a straight face, there are others.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 7 months ago

Fitty fitty