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[–] [email protected] 74 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well that's out of left field. I suppose that's a testament to how well they've done to keep their private life private.

An interesting historical parallel, Pierre Trudeau was the first PM to be divorced while in office.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I care about this as much as I care about the divorce of any other people I do not know. It is none of my business and it does not matter to me.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I really don't understand why I should care what people do with their personal life.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

For his family's sake, I hope he chooses ~~not~~ to step down for the next election. Milhouse is going to run with this, and will not hesitate to fight dirty.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Wouldn’t it be better for pp if Trudeau didn’t step down? I feel like there are a lot of cheap shots just waiting to be taken. It would be a good reason to let Freeland take over and maybe bring some of anti Trudeau crowd back to their senses; if that is possible…

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (2 children)

LOL, if you think the Fuck Trudeau crowd isn't salivating for the opportunity to become a bunch of anti-Freeland misogynistic turds...

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Like that guy in Grande Prairie who unironically posted his video of harassing Freland like some rabid incel celebrity wannabe on Tik Tok?

Yeah, the F🍁ck Trudeau crowd wouldn't skip a beat.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I meant more like normal people who blame him for their problems because it is convenient

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lol. The flag flyers are a lost cause. But I know a few people with variable mortgages who blame him for the high interest rates now. I’m sure there are a lot of people like that who would listen to pp’s lies.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Lol, these types never admit the consequences may be the result of their own actions

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I'm not sure I agree, cheap shots regarding the separation would likely land well with the voter base that was only ever going to vote blue, but it's not likely to win points in the moderate crowd. And those moderates are who the conservatives need to convince if they want to get into power.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah it would be, I misworded my comment. I meant to say that I hope he steps down.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why are comments even open on this article? They're just terrible tabloid trash.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To be fair pretty much all comments on any news article are like this lol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Hold my beer, I'm going in…

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

CBC comments are always atrocious.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

~~CBC~~ comments are always atrocious.

FTFY

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

It's sad, but I hope they're better off for it.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

Maybe now Melania has again more reasons to leave her isolated apartment life.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Seemed like she didn't wanted him to run again, but he is definitely going.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If that's the case he should have agreed not to. I don't see him making it through another election with how much baggage he's got now after two terms.

I will predict either a conservative minority or ndp minority, no idea which way it will swing but I think both sides have had enough of the liberal "middle ground".

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

We don't vote people in, we vote them out. He should have resigned in style. Now he'll lose to some asshole.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

I have to ask: who cares, and why should I?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was not expecting this. Quite out of nowhere.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Well, not really. There had been talk of her spending a lot of time at Harrington Lake when the PM was not there. I suspect they were semi-separated before this announcement.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I wonder if he and Melanie Joly will go public now.

You heard it here!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Wow that's unexpected

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I heard rumors a few years ago that they were already separated. Weird that they're supposedly going on a family vacation right after announcing that they're separating.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not that weird. The kids are the priority, and they should be.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It is weird only in that if they are not going to socially separate, all this tells us is that they have decided to separate their assets. Is that worth announcing? Were we otherwise going to be alarmed if Sofie opened a new bank account in her own name?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

In Ontario, you have to be separated (defined as living apart) for a year before you can get a divorce. There are exceptions for abuse and adultery, but this is the first legal step on the road to divorce. Whenever possible, it's best to keep it as amicable as possible when children are involved. That can still include going on vacations together.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In Ontario, you have to be separated (defined as living apart) for a year before you can get a divorce

What the fuck? Actually? What's the reasoning there? That seems unusual to me.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Ontario family law is written around the idea that women are helpless. Nonsensical by today's standards, but in a historical context, where things like job options for women were limited to non-existent, it becomes a little more understandable.

Given that, the idea is that a year of separation allows demonstration that a woman is able to separate from her husband. The state wants to ensure that she isn't going to be discarded to the streets where she will be left to be burden on society. If that test fails, she remains the "man's problem."

Why are we in Ontario intent to hang on to such sexist views? Well, it's Ontario, land of conservatism. It took until the year 2000 for Toronto to finally give up being dry (in the prohibition sense)! We're the Arab state of the west.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It took until the year 2000 for Toronto to finally give up being dry

Uh, what?! Can you point me to some further reading on that? Ontario is far stranger than I thought.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Typically one will spell out the division of assets in a separation agreement. That can be done at any time. You can even write up such an agreement when you are at the peak of marital bliss if you really wanted, although it might be unusual.

They seem to be happy to maintain a relationship, even if just for the kids, so there is no social division.

Divorce doesn't really mean much – other than allowing you to get married again, I suppose. It's a pretty handwavvy concept to begin with.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

For what it's worth, a friend of mine that used to work in a chain of high-end hotels had the Trudeaus as guests, and she said that Sophie treated everyone like trash.