Can’t believe it’s not OLED
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They will release an OLED Edition 5 years after so you can buy it again.
Jokes on you I’ll be the 0.1% that wait till before the switch 3 to buy.
that could be literally 10 years from now
Yea so by then I’ll have a substantial backlog haha.
Lcd would be fine at a higher resolution imo. But... Are they staying with 720p again?
720p is pretty solid on small screens when you're holding it ~2-3ft away. 1080p would be more ideal for sure, but I wouldn't be that disappointed if it means better battery and performance.
Yeah that sucks but if it’s a brighter high nits LCD screen than i might prefer that more on a portable device than the deep blacks of OLED. I use my OLED tv when I play at home anyway.
I can't believe it's not butter
As much as 512gb...
Of flash memory.... I think I bought a 2TB flash card for my steam deck.
The Switch uses MicroSD cards too
I have the lowest of low expectations for Nintendo consoles. They're always filled to the brim with gimmicks, that while creative, are not fun to use and then the best games are always ones that completely disregard the gimmicks anyhow. I wish they would focus more on making consoles that LOOK and FEEL good when you're playing instead of trying to create the next new thing no one will care about in 5 years. They also really lost the plot on the Pokemon franchise and I feel like that will start to lose them a lot of money when people start to wake up from their comas and realize Gamefreak doesn't know how to make video games and the last good one they made was am eternity ago.
I wish they would focus more on making consoles that LOOK and FEEL good when you’re playing instead of trying to create the next new thing no one will care about in 5 years.
Isn't this basically what they did with the Switch? It's very low on gimmicks that never get used (infrared? Touchscreen?), its games on the whole look pretty good (Most first party titles), and people still play it over 6 years later. Also Nintendo has nothing to do with the development of Pokémon - so while shit, they hardly deserve the blame for that.
It's a hand held console with detachable joycons
The “joycons” don’t bring me joy. They make my hands cramp and are only full of cons.
I think the joy cons make it great for party games, it's really convenient to get a 4 player game of Mario Cart going with just two pairs of joy cons.
Yeah until someone gets one with drift
You're supposed to drift in Mario Kart! /s
Many technologies exist around the inconvenience of having small flimsy drifting controllers in a several player setting. For example: You could pair your phones via Bluetooth or internet for party games in a similar fashion to Jackbox or other party games as a controller/ data entry device.
We shouldn’t need to rely on third party applications or controllers to have a good experience with your platform, be it physically or digitally, especially when the technology has existed for many years.
And don’t even get me started on the software side experience.
No offense, but I and all my friends enjoy the joycons a lot. It's been wonderful in college and out. I have a sneaking suspicion the people complaining about the switch are not the... target audience anyway.
Third parties do it for me. Sadly, I wish Nintendo would release official ergonomic joy cons. Instead I must buy something Chinese with questionable QC, to get something fully featured compared to the feature-neutered but high-quality Hori licensed ones.
Sure - but that's a gimmick that's pretty widely enjoyed. It's not like the 3DS's 3D that pretty much everyone turned off after giving it a shot, or like the Wii's motion controls that most people got sick of before the console retired. As far as gimmicks go it's arguably their most successful ever.
By that I mean the fact that it's handheld - if you were mostly talking about the detachable joycons then I'd agree at least somewhat, especially since they removed that from the Switch Lite - but it is pretty handy in a lot of situations still.
I mean, Gamefreak has been shitting out Pokémon "games" for decades now, right? If they didn't realize that in the last 15 years, would they really care about the next 15? I almost feel like each generation becomes the "default Pokémon experience" for their players.
Gamefreak doesn't know how to make video games and the last good one they made was am eternity ago.
Unfortunately I doubt anything will change because people continue to buy no matter how bad it is
I really wonder if a Switch 2 will do as well as the first Switch.
More and more handheld gaming PCs are released by the time the Switch 2 comes around. Yes, a Switch 2 does have the advantage of access to Nintendo games (if we ignore Emulators) and I would imagine lower price, but I haven't touched my Switch since I got the Steamdeck. I even sold an extra Switch Lite I had.
I rarely, basically never used the Switch plugged into a TV. I only played it in handheld mode with a skin that made it more comfortable to hold than a flat brick. Nintendo games rarely drop in price and sales don't reduce prices by much VS PC games that often go on sale and older games drop to very low prices on sale.
I'm certain there's a market for a Switch 2, I'm just wondering if it will do as well as the first Switch in the current market with more options.
Most people who play Nintendo Switch do not even know what a steam deck is. The vast vast majority.
It's revealing to keep in mind that the Switch sold 125 million units, and the most optimistic estimates put the number of Steam Deck sales around 3 million. Keep in mind that the Steam Deck never aimed to sell as much as major consoles, but that still shows how niche it is in comparison.
For 99+% of the Switch's target demographic, there aren't options.
They have never heard of the Deck, the Ally, or any of the other handheld PCs. They know three things about gaming: Nintendo, PlayStation, and Xbox. Those last two don't let them play Mario, Zelda, or Smash Bros., and they certainly don't let them play on the go, so they essentially only have one option.
I love my Deck and I hope to see the handheld PC market continue to grow and evolve, but it's just delusional to think that it will ever get to a point where it will have even the slightest impact on the third-best-selling console of all time (or, more to the point, its successor).
I just need them to confirm existing cartridges work and I am there buying it day one....
Fuck yeah, I've spent some serious buck on games.
If they fix joycon drift and use the buttons they used on switch lite I'll be happy. The joycon buttons stab into my fingers.
OLED or no thanks.
Switch 2 OLED coming in 2028
No OLED?
Yeah, that’s a huge regression. There will be an older-but-better Switch until they all ship with OLEDs.
Just to make sure, that was my point. I bought a $110 (on sale) 2tb card and expanded the memory. Games are becoming much bigger, maybe not Nintendo but the point stands. It's irritating buying an expensive purchase then having to buy more. Idk it kinds feels like I want them to offer a "complete device for the time". Comparable hardware to other entertainment systems.
I'm alright with the "provide a moderate amount of storage and space to upgrade it" method. Keeps the base price down, while power users can have what they want too.
I stuffed an extra 2TB SSD in my PS5 for just under £100. Now see Apple's iPad Pro pricing, where going from 128GB to 2TB adds a whopping £1250 to it, more than doubling the price.
lcd
Ffs.
Make it similar enough under the hood to the switch that ryujinx just need an update to play its games.
I mean, hey great!
I could just be dumb, but I hope that it'll still use the switch cartridge. Like how they did it with the DS line up until the 3DS when they changed it. I could see them potentially doing that too. If it does I'll finally jailbreak my OG switch with the tegra exploit. Just been too much of a scaredy cat to do it.
less than 1tb seems pointless
If it has a SD slot, 1TB seems like overkill. The top Steam Deck only has 512GB.
For how cheap NVMe is, it's ridiculous that any console is less than 2TB by default. It's just a way for them to monetize on selling additional storage.
Let's hope at least it gonna be a much higher quality LCD, maybe introduce VRR?
Will definitely be skipping this one. I almost never use my Switch as it is. At home, I use the PC. I can emulate single player games like Breath of the Wild. On the go, I've been enjoying mobile games on my phone (surprisingly) or I use my laptop. The Switch hasn't been a big draw.
If it's 1080p then that's fine for me. An 8 inch 1080p LCD would at least slightly compare to a 720p OLED.
Plenty of people forget that Nintendo needs to hit a price point on this device. So there are some things we might not think are ideal but need to be the way they are to make financial sense. Things like storage size, screen tech, are two of the areas where a compromise might have been needed. Also let's not pretend that there aren't good LCD screens that could be used, OLED isn't the be all and end all.
LCD is serviceable but it does feel a bit funny to go back to that when Nintendo and its top fans spent the last couple years saying "No, but you don't get it, buying another one just for the OLED is absolutely worth it"
Are they going to make it simpler to deal with controllers so I can play remotely with my mom? It's so frustrating to try and talk her through reconfiguring her controllers over the phone.