this post was submitted on 04 Aug 2023
868 points (93.0% liked)

politics

19172 readers
3970 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 188 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (38 children)

Curious how none of these Republican house committee members gave a damn when everyone of Trump‘s children did this for their entire lives. Now they suddenly have a problem with Hunter Biden doing it?

Give me a fucking break 

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago

With Donald's endorsement.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I think you’re missing the point. It’s one thing to use your parents’ influence to get ahead in business, but it’s another thing entirely to use their influence to withhold international aid and pressure a foreign government to kill a corruption investigation into the company that you just so happen to sit on the board of. Granted, these are all just allegations at this point, but that’s why this case is receiving so much attention.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I know you’re just repeating talking points and not actually advocating for one side or the other, but I do want to provide some balance to this part

use their influence to withhold international aid and pressure a foreign government to kill a corruption investigation into the company that you just so happen to sit on the board of

The corruption investigation in Ukraine was being lead by an investigator, Viktor Shokin, who was himself so corrupt that he drew international condemnation (before this investigation was even opened)

Multiple western governments, including the Obama administration, had demanded he be replaced for failing to prosecute corruption cases, and Ukrainian investigators and anti-corruption watchdogs have said that Shokin was fired because he had made no progress in the fight against corruption.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1247320

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well, if you can produce evidence of that, or if anyone else can produce evidence of that, then it should be investigated. Currently, there is no evidence of that. Therefore, an investigation into that does not seem to be warranted. Not legally, anyway.

You even admit that all there are are “allegations”. That’s not enough to even sustain a search warrant. You can’t just go violating someone’s rights because you have some sort of allegation or suspicion. And the GOP is trying to start some conspiracy circus because they don’t have dirt on Joe Biden, so they’re trying to get to him by making up a bunch of crap about his son instead. and while Hunter Biden may be kind of a scumbag, unless they can actually produce evidence that he did anything illegal with regards to his father, and they haven’t been able to so far, there’s no reason to start a house committee investigation.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think you're missing the point. Ousting Shokin wasn't Biden blocking corruption investigations, it was him literally doing the bidding of the Obama administration, and was supported by the IMF and the entire G-7. That's why he was proud of it, because it was an example of him doing his job exceptionally well. Also Shokin liked to open investigations then leave them open as blackmail, which is exactly what he did to Burisma, so this isn't some smoking gun.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

I think you're missing the part of the report where this "bombshell testimony" confirms that that never happened, and all these charges hinge on the implication that it could just because Hunter is Joe's son. This is about, to quote the testimony, "the illusion of access to the president".

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Because they don’t care and never cared. They’re entirely disingenuous and trying to call them out on hypocrisy as if it matters is a losing game.

load more comments (35 replies)
[–] [email protected] 126 points 1 year ago (10 children)

When did it become illegal to say "do you know who my father is?"

Lots of kids in salmon colored shorts are heading to prison!!

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Around the same time as when it became only allowable when trump’s spawn does it.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Funny how they never talk about the millions one child made, the Chinese patents, or the billions the SIL was given. While working for the administration.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (8 replies)
[–] [email protected] 103 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Archer was also asked if then-Vice President Biden regularly "checked in on his son, who's admitted he's had issues with drugs."

"Every day," Archer replied. But asked whether he had ever heard them discuss the "substance of Hunter Biden's business," he responded, "No."

He asked Archer, "Is it fair to say that Hunter Biden was selling the illusion of access to his father?"

Archer replied, "Yes."

Glad to have confirmation of the nothingburger, I guess.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah it's not like he gave his kids jobs in his cabinet. That would be outrageous!

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For accuracy, Trump never appointed his kids to cabinet positions. He just hired them on as senior advisors so that the US Government could pay each of them exorbitant amounts of money.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Yeah. I think this was fairly obvious all along.

[–] [email protected] 96 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Call their bluff and introduce comprehensive anti-nepotism law reforms across the political landscape. So many people in positions of power and influence would have too much to lose if they can no longer hand out favors to their spouses, children, and inlaws.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago

It would be incredibly funny if this would be the thing that brought stricter laws for that lol.

[–] [email protected] 79 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Never voting for Hunter ever again. I swear.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 73 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Now do Ivanka, Don, and “I’m Eric”.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Then, Rep. Dan Goldman, Democrat of New York, asked Archer if he had any knowledge that Joe Biden had any direct involvement with Burisma, and Archer replied, "No."

So what they're saying, it seems, is that merely being Joe Biden's son while trying to do business is corruption because it implies that you could go talk to your dad on someone's behalf if you wanted to. Please let them define that as corruption, I would love for every wealthy failson, Hunter included, to be corrupt by definition.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Which, of course, would include Jared and Ivanka.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

Keep going. All of them. ALL OF THEM!

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is so weird to see as a European. You have Trump who directly or indirectly provided millions to his entire family - and the Republicans ignore it entirely -, and then you have Biden where his son made a statement like this.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not weird at all, once you realize it's all about a team sport mentality (and I'm being REALLY generous here) and not about integrity and honor.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

Its equal parts sad, terrifying, infuriating, depressing, and embarrassing. The Republican Party as we once knew it, is gone and the ilk that have replaced it have no principles, morals, ethics, or honor.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago (13 children)

This is literally what Jared and Ivanka did the entire Trump presidency, yet that's not a big deal.

load more comments (13 replies)
[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fascinating to watch republicans suddenly care about this. Where were they when Trump was president?

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Republicans are milking this distraction for all that they can. Their dumb ass constituents don't even know they're being played. Or they like being played, it lets them comfortably embrace their ignorance and lack of character.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

lmao these R congress squatters are insane.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


In response to questions from Congressman Goldman about the brand's alleged impact, Archer said that it appeared to shield Burisma "because people would be intimidated to mess with them."

In a separate line of questioning by Republican congressman Andy Biggs, of Arizona, Archer was asked whether the brand was about "Dr. Jill or anybody else.

Republicans on the committee asked Archer about two dinners, one in 2014 and another in 2015 at a restaurant in Washington, D.C., with Hunter Biden's foreign business associates, both of which the then-vice president attended.

Archer's interview was the latest development in the GOP's investigations into Hunter Biden as Republicans seek to tie his controversial business dealings to the president.

The Oversight Committee has sought information on any possible involvement from the president in his son's foreign business deals for months.

His conviction was overturned later that year, and U.S. District Judge Ronnie Abram wrote in her decision she was "left with an unwavering concern that Archer is innocent of the crimes charged."


I'm a bot and I'm open source!

load more comments
view more: next ›