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    [–] [email protected] 45 points 6 months ago (1 children)
    [–] [email protected] 37 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    HDR is like RGB, sometimes cool if done really well but usually just a useless selling point.

    [–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)
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    [–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

    For a second there I thought you were advocating for fluorescent green or monochromatic CRT screens of old.

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    [–] [email protected] 36 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (6 children)

    Joke's on you I can't afford an HDR display & also I'm colorblind.

    [–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago

    You can still profit from the increase in brightness and contrast! Doesn’t make a good HDR screen any cheaper though…

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    [–] [email protected] 27 points 6 months ago
    [–] [email protected] 27 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    HDR? Ah, you mean when videos keep flickering on Wayland!

    I will switch when I need a new GPU.

    [–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago (1 children)

    Now that explicit sync has been merged this will be a thing of the past

    [–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago

    And it was never a thing on AMD GPUs.

    [–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago (9 children)

    videos? everything flickers for me on wayland. X.org is literally the only thing keeping me from switching back to windows right now.

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

    Wayland has started to support Explicit Sync which can fix the behavior of Nvidia's dumpster fire of a driver

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    [–] [email protected] 19 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    You want to win me over? For starters, provide a layer that supports all hooks and features in xdotool and wmctrl. As I understand it, that's nowhere near present, and maybe even deliberately impossible "for security reasons".

    I know about ydotool and dotool. They're something but definitely not drop-in replacements.

    Unfortunately, I suspect I'll end up being forced onto Wayland at some point because the easy-use distros will switch to it, and I'll just have to get used to moving and resizing my windows manually with the mouse. Over and over. Because that's secure.

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

    I think the Wayland transition will not be without compromises

    May I ask why you don't use tiling window managers if you don't like to move windows with the mouse?

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

    I think it's possible to make such a tool for Wayland, but in Wayland stuff like that are completely on the compositor

    So, ask the compositor developers to expose the required shit and you can make such a tool

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

    Unfortunately, I suspect I’ll end up being forced onto Wayland at some point because the easy-use distros will switch to it, and I’ll just have to get used to moving and resizing my windows manually with the mouse. Over and over. Because that’s secure.

    I think you were being sarcastic but it is more secure. Less convenient though.

    I'm not sure if that's what you're looking for but KDE has nice window rules that can affect all sorts of settings. Placement, size, appearance etc. Lot of options. And you can match them per specific windows or the whole application etc. I use it for few things, mostly to place windows on certain screens and in certain sizes.

    [–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago (1 children)

    OK but can you please call NVidiachan? I know you two don't get along but maybe you can ask her for some support?

    [–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

    NVidiachan is busy selling GPUS for AI, but she is also working on adding explicit sync

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    [–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago (1 children)

    How will HDR affect the black screen I get every time I've tried to launch KDE under Wayland?

    [–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    It will make your screen blacker.

    But it all seriousness, your display manager might not support Wayland. Try something like ssdm.

    [–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    I'm using SDDM and it lets me select Wayland as an option just fine, Just my Nvidia card won't load my desktop then.

    I'm going full AMD next time I upgrade but that's gonna be a while away...

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

    Nothing you can do then. Stay on x11 until nvidia get their shit together.

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    [–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

    It should work with the latest Nvidia driver. It does for me.

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    [–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago (7 children)

    hahahaha tell that to nvidia users

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

    Smart Nvidia users are ex Nvidia users

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    Financially smart Nvidia users are Nvidia users

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    [–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (11 children)

    Actually wait until the next de releases hit repos, all the nvidia problems just got solved

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    [–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

    You already had me at "144hz on one monitor and 60hz on the other so I can enjoy the nice monitor without having to buy a new secondary one."

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    [–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    It's not ready yet.

    The protocol for apps/games to make use of it is not yet finalized.

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    [–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

    without any interruption to gaming compability I definitely don't want to switch sorry.

    HDR is cool and I look forward to getting that full game compability and eventually making the switch but it's just not there yet

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    [–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Been watching this drama about HDR for a year now, and still can't be arsed to read up on what it is.

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    HDR or High Dynamic Range is a way for images/videos/games to take advantage of the increased colour space, brightness and contrast of modern displays. That is, if your medium, your player device/software and your display are HDR capable.

    HDR content is usually mastered with a peak brightness of 1000nits or more in mind, while Standard Dynamic Range (SDR) content is mastered for 80-100nit screens.

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    [–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

    HDR makes stuff look really awesome. It's super good for real.

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

    Me, not much of a gamer and not a movie buff and having no issues with the way monitors have been displaying things for the past 25 years: No.

    When I could no longer see the migraine-inducing flicker while being irradiated by a particle accelerator shooting a phosphor coated screen in front of my face, I was good to go.

    It was exciting when we went from green/amber to color!

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    HDR is almost useless to me. I'll switch when wayland has proper remote desktop support (lmk if it does but I'm pretty sure it does not)

    [–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Seems like there's a bunch of solutions out there:

    As of 2020, there are several projects that use these methods to provide GUI access to remote computers. The compositor Weston provides an RDP backend. GNOME has a remote desktop server that supports VNC. WayVNC is a VNC server that works with compositors, like Sway, based on the wlroots library. Waypipe works with all Wayland compositors and offers almost-transparent application forwarding, like ssh -X.

    Do these not work for your use case?

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    [–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

    Kde on Wayland doesn't even have sticky keys.

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