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Thanks to everyone here for the suggestions. Key pitch is now 19mm, I've removed the top row and added a second index column.

I'm not really pleased with the arrow pad placement, but I haven't found any better place yet.

I'm still working on the layout...

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'm in camp "arrows on hjkl on a layer, home/pgdn/pgup/end right below that", but if you really want them as physical keys, I'd probably stuff them below the pinky cluster, right next to the outer thumb.

That, or maybe something dpad-like on the left edge, close to the H.

Edit: Oh, for clarification: I'm a programmer, as well. I make plenty of use of the arrow keys, so it's not like "eh, let's stuff those on a layer, I never use 'em anyway" or something.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yea I absolutely cannot imagine having to move my entire hand to a arrow cluster.

Right Thumb mod + hjkl gang

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I put my arrows on a layer under hjkl but I've also heard ijkl and wasd are popular for that

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you put the arrow cluster under a layer, you could use the right hand thumb cluster + one key on the bottom row. The layer could be activated by a left hand chorded keypress.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah but I really like having physical arrow keys 😅

I've never been a fan of the vi-style keys.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I understand what you’re saying, but what I hear is “I want unitask keys that only do one thing, and are objectively harder to reach”. To me this lessens the effectiveness of this sort of build.

Don’t get me wrong, you do you!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I always program my arrow keys to have PgUp/PgDn/Home/End, so technically they do two things 😅. I'm working on the layout and all of the layers are crammed already. I may have to abandon features tho, the way I see it I would need to free 8 keys on the function layer to make things work.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

look at the hillside keyboards and how they have the extra keys. you could use the same idea for your arrow keys.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

That was actually very similar to my first prototype but I went another direction.