This is what we get for conflating a persons talent and ability with their net worth
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His only talent is convincing the wealthy to invest in his schemes. I don't understand how he does it, hearing him speak is painful.
He got lucky with Tesla becoming a meme stock.
SpaceX is being run by a competent engineer while its competitor, Blue Origin is being run by a megalomaniac. This is possibly Musks only competent move in business.
The rest of his ventures have been failures. To any one not blinded by greed, it's clear he long ago peaked. He's playing a shell game now but people will happily invest hoping luck will strike again.
There's an old tweet that explains it well, I'm sure you've seen it.
(Paraphrased) "Elon Musk talked about cars. I don't know anything about cars so when people said he was a genius, I figured he must be a genius"
Investors don't know shit about the stuff they're investing in and Musk sounds really smart when you don't know anything about the thing he's speaking on.
For Tesla and SpaceX, they attracted the top engineers because they were cool bleeding edge problems to solve that actually aligned with idealist goals in the industries.
Musk used that genuine motivation and overworked people into burnout, and took credit for others hard work.
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His only talent is convincing the wealthy to invest in his schemes. I don't understand how he does it, hearing him speak is painful.
That's not fair, he's also really good at making promises to the public to secure incentives and public funding and then fucking everyone over
The real trick there is how he didn't get sued.
The SEC has held him more accountable than the share holders
To his credit SpaceX was at least a correct recognition that the dominant space launch companies were just a cartel milking federal funding for as much as possible. That sector is so stagnant that ULA still hasn't blinked at the massive success of first stage reusability.
When you're a government agency, you have to play things super safe. When you're an independent company, you can do whatever you want. And if you fail, no one cares. If the government agency fails, it's hell to pay.
Likewise for prominent contractors. When they start being Musky, you get the current Boeing debacle.
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Man, I wish I was a deluded narcissist. Life sounds pretty good for them.
Only if you have enough starting capital to skirt through life without a worry.
Right right. OK let me amend: I wish I was a deluded narcissist born with a silver spoon in my mouth.
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Do they mean seagull?
Yeah that's what I was thinking, never heard it called pigeon management before
Maybe they mean pigeon to make it sound like he isn't able to be a seagull manager. Like he's trying to be a seagull manager, but only managed pigeon manager. A quiet insult.
Maybe all Tesla managers are as dumb as Musk himself and they did mean Pigeon but in an unironic way.
Seems more like he's combining it with a quote:
"Arguing with idiots is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter how good you are, the bird is going to shit on the board and strut around like it won anyways."
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It's not pigeon management unless it's from the city region of new york
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Anyone remember when he spent all his time talking about colonising mars? That was his big thing and the future. Whatever happened to that?
Then spacex got government funding. Now AI is the big thing.
I've still yet to see any of his great visions he's actually delivered on.
Whatever happened to that?
He took all the money he was going to use to do that, put it in a duffelbag with X written on the side, and burned it.
Isn't something like that why Elon got in trouble with the Tesla board? Something about using Tesla as a bank to fund space x.
Space X which he owns a controlling stake in, unlike Tesla.
He's one of those people who'll pop around a corner and proclaim his credit of something he had next to no involvement in.
Notice he has never actually volunteered to go up in a SpaceX rocket. I don't think he'll be going to Mars.
Tis a shame, Musk would be perfect to colonize Mars. Send him there. But forget to send women.
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I'm picturing him walking into Tesla's offices, going over to the engineers, saying, "make the horn make a fart noise," and leaving, thinking he's brilliant.
"The bear is sticky with honey"
My God he's brilliant....
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I've never heard of pigeon management but I have heard something similar described as playing chess with a pigeon as someone who "knocks all the pieces over, shits on the board then struts aroind like they've won".
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That’s an insult to pigeons.
Somewhat ironic that the original joke was about seagull managers.
poetry
Can't we all agree to just ignore him? Like stop posting about him and quit Twitter? He thrives off negative attention.
Problem is that lots of people do not leave Tw(X)tter and are not intending to do so :( And some are on Mastodon sort of pretending to have left the Pigeon sh*t CEO product, but still posting mostly screenshots from the old site. Good thing is that some are pretty clear about having left and encouraging others to follow like here : https://mastodon.social/@dangillmor ->
Journalists, please leave Twitter and join the fediverse. ~~Here's how to get started:~~
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Soooo... just a bog-standard CEO, then.
As much as I hate them, I would wager that the majority of CEOs are more educated, smarter and have a better understanding of their business than Elon "Failed Upward" Musk.
CEOs are more educated, smarter and have a better understanding of their business
You haven't met that many of them, have you?
I have - the difference between the ones I met and the likes of Elon is that none of the ones I met had any interest in being celebrities. That's the only difference - their institutionalized incompetence was the exact same.
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There's a picture this makes me think of where a bunch of birds are sitting on a tree in typical pyramid hierarchy diagram positions, and each level of birds starting from the second is covered in more shit than the previous.
The true trickle down
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As a pigeon enjoyer, offence taken.
I've always heard them described as seagull managers. Screams loudly, shits everywhere, leaves.
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We called this the “swoop and poop” in a previous job of mine. Definitely not something encouraged or enjoyed.
thing is, pigeons actually contribute to the environment
As much as I dislike the guy, so did he. He popularized EVs, brought a viable space program back to the west and even neuralink seems promising for people with certain disabilities.
And no, that doesn’t excuse hyperloop, twitter, Tesla‘s broken promises, him being a questionable human to put it mildly, etc. but claiming he contributed nothing is a very black/white thinking.
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I've been under leaders like this. Definitely not the best ones.
They do say owners pick pets most similar to them.
hey that's insulting. against pigeons. they can at least fly without exploding (space x doesnt really), navigate to places without risking themselves (unlike telsa autopilot) and they don't ruin every corporation they own. fuck musk though
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