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Nancy Pelosi says Israel's Netanyahu 'should resign' as prime minister over Hamas war (www.nbcnews.com)

submitted 6 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 6 months ago

It makes sense when random people or celebrities make these demands...

But Pelosi is a senior member of our government, she doesn't have to just make these public statements.

Cutting off aid until Bibi is about of power isn't just possible, compared to other ways we've kicked genocidal maniacs out of power it's down right cordial.

We need the people who do have the power to get shit down, actually put the work in and do it.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 6 months ago (9 children)

It's so bizarre to me that a politician saying that the grotesquely corrupt psychopath in charge of an apartheid nation that's carrying out a genocide on one front and an incremental land grab on another while they also try to provoke yet another nation into attacking so they can play the victim as they continue their egregious crimes "should resign" is a newsworthy event.

The world is in the hands of insane monsters.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Well, it’s newsworthy because, while Pelosi is hella old, she hasn’t technically retired yet. And politicians actually saying or doing things that are morally defensible usually comes after retirement (unless you’re part of the progressive wing that the DNC is basically trying to shut down altogether).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

Exactly, and that's bizarre.

We actually live in a world in which politicians are expected to be dishonest, amoral and corrupt fuckwads and the few in Washington who aren't are outcasts even in their own party. And we just accept that. It's insane.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

The world is in the hands of insane monsters.

I too get that feeling since around 2010.

And knowing that for sort of the night of the long knives, but for many bigger nations and elites, nothing which we'd notice is needed, - maybe something like that did happen then. Or maybe a bit earlier - in 2006-2009.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 months ago

As soon as he's out of power he's most likely going to prison for corruption, so I don't think he'll be taking her advice.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I agree but also she should resign due to her being old as shit.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago

And insider trading

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago

So should every politician who is supporting him through funds.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Didn't they have like 7 elections in a row over the course of 5 months and Bibi finally won as was like "this closest election ever in the history of Israel gives me the mandate to rule over it like a total dictator, time to gut the judges, throw the ultra-orthodox into the military, appoint my friend Lieberman head of a secret anti-protest milita and genocide gaza!"

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

Shit he even lost a few of them but no one could form a government. I hear on the news that some people were just voted Likud just to end the forever stalemate.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

The Israeli left had been weak since the Yom Kippur War.

Edit: damn autocorrect

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yom

Ftfy

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Thank you.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

First off, I agree.

Secondly: lol never happening

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago

That would probably be for the best.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Really? I thought people accusing Israel of genocide were russian trolls and chinese spies?

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

She also called Palestinian protestors Chinese agents so this is probably because Bibi isn't doing a good job doing PR and blindly listening to Biden and not because he's actively involved in a genocide.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

fuck that's what im talking about let's go

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Good to see from Nancy Pelosi.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Took her far too long to notice.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago (4 children)

The man who would replace Netanyahu, Benny Gantz, considered to be a left-wing Israeli politician, will do the same things that Bibi has been doing... ya know, considering it is a unity government and all. The leftists who think they'll get their way in allowing Hamas to survive by getting rid of Netanyahu really are ignorant.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Those aren't leftists. It's mostly liberals who tell themselves that israel as a ethno nationalist state is perfectly fine but that a prime Minister boastfully taking Israel to it's natural conclusion of ethnic cleansing and genocide is too much. They want it to be done more quietly.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Right, but Netanyahu needs to go, regardless.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

This comment took a hard left turn

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Wait why should Hamas be allowed to survive? They are not the good guys, they are not Palestine, they are wealthy men living abroad. I was hoping this would be a great chance to end both leaderships, not pretend like Hamas are victims

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