this post was submitted on 14 May 2024
301 points (79.7% liked)

Political Memes

5405 readers
4594 users here now

Welcome to politcal memes!

These are our rules:

Be civilJokes are okay, but don’t intentionally harass or disturb any member of our community. Sexism, racism and bigotry are not allowed. Good faith argumentation only. No posts discouraging people to vote or shaming people for voting.

No misinformationDon’t post any intentional misinformation. When asked by mods, provide sources for any claims you make.

Posts should be memesRandom pictures do not qualify as memes. Relevance to politics is required.

No bots, spam or self-promotionFollow instance rules, ask for your bot to be allowed on this community.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 
top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 31 points 5 months ago (9 children)

This is the biggest thing IMO, liberals would rather attack leftists than try to work with them. All this does, however, is convince leftists that they have nothing to gain from siding with liberals and instead trying to build outside pressure.

Liberals would rather defend genocide than join leftists in trying to force Biden's hand and gain back leftist voters.

I say this as a Leftist likely voting for Biden: Leftists are going third party because Liberals have been blocking all leftward movement, thus alienating leftists from the electoral process. If you want leftist votes, work with leftists, instead of constantly punching left.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 5 months ago (94 children)

Biden fired the guy who used to run the NLRB, and put in a bunch of actually pro-labor people, who gave lots of material support to all this union activity that coincidentally has been meeting with all sorts of success over the last couple of years.

Biden's corporate tax reforms swung Amazon's taxes from negative $1.2 billion per quarter to positive $1 billion when they took effect at the start of 2023, and they're currently paying $3 billion per quarter, a comfortable amount more than they've ever paid before. Here's this year's proposal of what he plans to do to build on top of that. Raising corporate taxes was most of how he funded stuff like the infrastructure bill.

I literally do not see anyone "punching left" outside of the mainstream media. No one on Lemmy is out here saying "these damn protestors if only they would shut up" or anything like that. I see a bunch of people punching Biden, and then other people saying hey, what you said is actually not accurate; for as criminal as his support for Israel is, he's actually the first pro-working-people president the US has had in many many years.

That's not "punching left," that's refuting the punching that is coming inwards towards the person who is right now the only available alternative to full throated, military-seize-the-voting-machines, shoot-the-protestors, fascism.

load more comments (94 replies)
[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago

American power only rewards those that don't threaten it and punishes those that do.

The left is the last hope America has to reform anything in a positive direction, but sadly liberals would rather abide power than join the left and transform our collapsing system into a force of good.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

liberals would rather attack leftists than try to work with them.

That's because liberals know (despite their pretensions otherwise) that leftists threaten their oh-so-precious status quo.

Liberals also know that, when push comes to shove, they are going to need the fascists to protect said oh-so-precious status quo for them - despite their pretensions otherwise.

Nothing liberals do or say is a mystery once you understand that.

load more comments (6 replies)
[–] [email protected] 30 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Case in point: this whole damn thread lmao

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago
[–] [email protected] 28 points 5 months ago (20 children)

When they can’t find anything good to say about their own party, attacking the opposition is the entirety of their argument.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (10 children)

Hi!

Biden tried to forgive half a trillion dollars in student debt, took the biggest action on climate change in history which is estimated to reduce emissions by 40% by 2030 if Trump doesn't undo it, strengthened the NLRB which has been giving legal backing to a lot of these union wins, grew wages at the bottom end of the pay scale even in the face of historic inflation, and a few other things.

It is also relevant that he doesn't want to end democracy in the Unites States, "finish the job" in Gaza, or fire on protestors with live ammunition, like Trump does. But if for some reason you've decided it's not allowed to make the decision on those bases (and I don't know why it wouldn't), there are also good things to say about Biden.

Oh, I mean, my bad. Rail strike worst president ever both sides amirite

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Biden rejoined the Paris Climate Agreement, revoked the Keystone Pipeline permit, created a 13 million acre federal petroleum reserve for Alaskan wildlife, greatly increased oil site lease cost, signed $7B in solar subsidies, enacted the Inflation Reduction act to support clean energy, created the CHIPS Act to improve reliance on domestic technology, reenacted Net Neutrality, repealed Title 42, ended the Muslim Ban, signed the Equality Act for LGBTQ+ rights, restored gay rights to beneficiaries, reenacted trans care anti-discrimination law, signed the Respect for Marriage Act, enabled unspecified gender on US Passports, rejoined WHO, rescheduled marijuana, reducing drug costs with the American Rescue Plan Act…

Edit: I misunderstood when I read the second half of your comment. For what it’s worth, I agree about Israel. It’s simply not a comparison since Trump has been clear about his intentions with Palestine and Ukraine.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Wait, I am confused. Are we arguing? I thought Biden was doing great up until Netanyahu started killing Gazans by the thousands. He's been doing weird little half-hearted things like holding up the weapons shipments, but hauling Netanyahu to the ICC would have been a better idea.

But yes, in general, Biden's a huge improvement over the norm in a bunch of ways that for some reason aren't talked about real often, and Trump is the end of the world (for the Palestinians and other Arabs and Hispanics and a whole bunch of other minorities foreign and domestic, in addition to everyone else). I feel like we're on the same page on that, and I didn't realize when I read your first message.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

My initial comment was intended to imply that there’s no “pro-Trump” argument, only “anti-Biden” arguments, so it read that way to me. I’m sorry if I misunderstood your intention through context. I’m pretty tired. I’ll edit for clarity.

load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments (9 replies)
load more comments (19 replies)
[–] [email protected] 25 points 5 months ago

A fascist best friend is a liberal who would rather punch left.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Aww man but if im not super condescending about how everyone should vote for biden then I won't get to say "I told you so" when trump wins and does the worst shit possible.

Disclaimer im voting for biden shut the fuck up.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

Yessssss, finally meme I agree with, and therefore am required to like. Our funy memes, their horrible propagandist image macros, our nuanced conversationalism, their lunatic screaming, etc.

I dunno guys I think I'm just like an exhausted contrarian maybe. Can I get like, can I get a lemmy where every post is just a link to an interesting blog post, or something? Do I have to construct that lemmy myself, only to watch it totally fail because nobody reads blog posts in the year of our lord 20XX?

load more comments
view more: next ›