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The decision is aimed at better performance on state tests and avoiding sexual content found in some of the Bard’s work.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

OH FOR FUCK'S SAKE! EVEN FUCKING SHAKESPEARE IS TOO "WOKE" FOR THEM!

God damn, I shouldn't let them piss me off so much, but this is craziness.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They 100% want to turn the US into a white ethnostate. Writing LGBTQIA+ people out of existence along with forcing us into a caste system is part of the plan.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Yeah, but Shakespeare was a white, (probably) heterosexual Englishman who mostly just wrote about other white people. How much more ethnic whiteness do they want?

It's Othello, isn't it? They're objecting to Othello.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Don't forget the slavery too.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

Ron DeSantis, I bite my thumb at thee.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Shakespeare is never taught properly in school anyways. I always hated it. They teach plays by making you read and analyze. That's like taking a film course and reading the scripts but never watching the movies.

Once you watch Shakespeare as intended, on a stage but nothing fancy, by actors who don't take themselves too seriously, it clicks. But reading the plays as a teenager is just dumb.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was so glad one of my high school teacher had us watch movies after we read a play. The best was her having us watch Throne of Blood after we finished Macbeth.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I pray you didn't have to watch the modern remake of Romeo and juliet like I did.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Say what you will about it, you can’t say that Harold Perrineau didn’t absolutely nail the role of Mercutio.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Romeo + Juliet is the only version I enjoy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I enjoyed English class in school, but in the years during and after university, I've come to realise just how much I was missing out. I used to think Shakespeare was overrated, but now I see the big deal

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

In a way, it’s fascinating to see the fall of the Roman Empire, 21st century edition.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Here's an excerpt from They Thought They Were Free: The Germans, 1933-45, an analysis of the causes and destructive path of Fascism before and during WWII. A high school teacher who joined the party to cover for his anti-Nazi past is talking about which Shakespeare plays he could teach:

"Tell me, Herr Hildebrandt, what about Julius Caesar?"

He smiled very, very wryly. "Julius Caesar? No... no."

"Was it forbidden?"

"Not that I remember. But that is not the way it was. Everything was not regulated specifically, ever. It was not like that at all. Choices were left to the teacher's discretion, within the 'German spirit.' That was all that was necessary; the teacher had only to be discreet. If he himself wondered at all whether anyone would object to a given book, he would be wise not to use it.

This was a much more powerful form of intimidation, you see, than any fixed list of acceptable or unacceptable writings. The way it was done was, from the point of view of the regime, remarkably clever and effective. The teacher had to make the choices and risk the consequences; this made him all the more cautious."

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Gotta love teaching for a test, rather than to educate.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Except they teaching to a purity test now

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Am I the only who doesn't give an eff about Shakespeare? Sure I love the history of it all, but there's too much good shit to read that doesn't involve an annoying archaic English and will never use it again unless you do plays in the park.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Except that apart from maybe the bible, there is probably not a single literary body of work that is as often refered to as Shakespeare's in western media, literature, movies, series, games ... you name it. It'll help you appreciate A LOT of other stuff a lot more if you get into it a little. Shakespeare is used and reused everywhere, all the time.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

“Come, come, you wasp; i' faith, you are too angry.

Katherine: If I be waspish, best beware my sting.

Petruchio: My remedy is then, to pluck it out.

Katherine: Ay, if the fool could find where it lies.

Petruchio: Who knows not where a wasp does wear his sting? In his tail.

Katherine: In his tongue.

Petruchio: Whose tongue?

Katherine: Yours, if you talk of tails: and so farewell.

Petruchio: What, with my tongue in your tail? Nay, come again, Good Kate; I am a gentleman.”

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lol isn't returning to Shakespeare half the point of Florida's new SAT replacement test that is created by hard-core Catholics? The "classical tradition" is the shit, so I was led to believe.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

They haven't read any of the classics. Just like they haven't read the bible.