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[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Try to think beyond your adorable little "protest vote" when your choices are between boring corporatists and 100% concentrated evil. Or you may never have to worry about voting ever again.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Not to mention Trump would be an even bigger supporter of Israel than Biden.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago (2 children)

"I would fight fascism to my last breath" "I would be part of the resistance movement if a fascist government took power"

proceeds to do none of the un-sexy things needed to prevent fascism from taking hold in the first place

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Exactly. They think being in a resistance is sexy, because they consume media that glorifies it. They dress it up and hide the realities while amplifying the parts that are heroic and good looking, and think that's what being in a resistance is like. Couple that with Main Character Syndrome and you've got a bunch of tankies who think they're going to kick ass at organizing a resistance and all be leaders when in fact most of them are going to do something stupid, get caught by the fascist regime, and die in a camp.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Fits the rest of their LARPing, honestly.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

oh yeah the notoriously huge and election-swinging group in the us: the communists.

don't delegate your problems.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

yeah pretty sure communists haven't decided/altered the result of any state or federal election in the past 20 years at minimum. probably more like the past 60-80 years

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

In 2016, the blue team won by 3 million votes and still lost the election. The system is broken. I'll still vote blue, but I don't think it will matter, especially since I'm not in a swing state.

The Electoral College Explained

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The electoral college, first past the post and gerrymandering basically make the American electoral system a joke

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Turning 35 this September. Only 1 Republican has won the popular vote since I was born.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Well yeah, that's why they love the EC (and idea of land >>> people)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Matters for your more local elections. Those swing states still send a lot of republicans to Congress every election. And control of Congress is pretty damn important.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

They don't care.

Sure they will tell people that democracy will end if Trump is reelected but actually trying to fix the voting system is too hard.

Not that there has been any movement to do something about it. Just vote Democrat™.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (3 children)

If anyone actually wants to stop the genocide in Gaza please vote out your republican congressman, almost every Republican congressman supported the resolution to restart weapons shipments and almost every democrat voted against it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

This isn't a republican issue only. Most of congress, both democrats and Republicans have been voting in favor of funding israel. The big problem is that most of our politicians are bought by AIPAC.

The "anti semitism" bill passed 320-91 in house.

The 14.3 billon in aid to israel was passed by the house by 366-58. Only 37 Democrats and 21 Republicans opposed the bill.

Source.

You can checkout opensecrets.org or https://trackaipac.com/ to see which politicians are getting what from AIPAC.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (5 children)

DNC and DNC shills expecting free votes because they're democratically funding a genocide instead of fascistly funding a genocide

You morons in November when Trump inevitably wins due to horrendous voter turnout in November from former Democrat voters and not because the 5 communists in the USA made the difference

It's like a copy paste of Trump v Clinton and clearly no one learned their lesson from literally 8 years ago.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

So how is the whole "blame-leftists-for-the-abysmal-failure-of-our-fake-democracy" gaslighting project going?

It seems a bit laggy.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

Tankies when they finally create a dictatorship, only to work in the mines because the quota for poets was already met.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I wonder what their idea of the outcome is.

Tankie: "I convinced 20 Democratic Party voters to stay at home (and did the same for 0 Republican Party voters). Wait until Democratic politicians see that more voters favored the far right party. Then they're going to move left and fall on their knees and beg me to forgive them."

(Cue scene: swastika-adorned tanks rolling past the window)

"Stupid liberals, unwilling to fight the fascists like us true leftists." (Watches tanks and twiddles thumbs.) (Fetches keyboard.) "Let's tell everyone online that it's their own fault and they deserve this." (Sudden sound of harsh knocking on front door.)

At best, their actions will "only" cause another grid-locked presidency where progressives can't get their reforms to pass (which will then be used as the reason to abandon the likely last line of non-violent defense against fascists).

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (5 children)

I'm so glad that I live outside the US. Not that we have good options but at least more than 2. I guess I would still vote for Biden but I wouldn't call it a democracy

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (19 children)

Oh, the massive hypocrisy of Biden refusing to swallow his Zionist principles and stop their Genocide, whilst at the same time sending his tribe's peons around to try and convince millions of people to swallow their Humanist principles and vote for a guy who supports Genocide.

Biden could pretty much guarantee a win tomorrow by announcing that it has been determined that Israel is indeed committing war crimes, followed by cutting support for them as per the Law when the recipient of help is committing such crimes, ideally followed by sanctions.

Yet he doesn't and instead there's a clear propaganda op with repeated variations of the claim that "Not being for Biden is being for Trump" (which, curiously, is just the authoritarianist argument "those who are not with us are agains us").

Why does the supposedly elected representative of all Americans firmly refuse to follow Americans as they turned against the Zionist Genocide and instead acts like all dictators by doing what he himself wants disregarding the will of those he is supposed to represent?

The argument of this and other similar posts which have innundated Lemmy would be a lot stronger if Biden wasn't an example of doing the exact opposite of what these posts demand from others, both the part of doing whatever it takes to stop Trump (which, as I explained above. Biden is not) and swallowing one's principles to stop something worse (i.e. Biden stopping acting as a Zionist in order to secure the votes to guarantee that Trump is stopped).

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (11 children)

And then they ask "wHy dO tHe dEms mOvE tO tHe CenTrE wHeN tHeY lOsE i dOn'T uNdErsTanD".

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (12 children)

I think that's been a proven case for European parliamentary democracies giving way to right wing and fascist parties. But that's more the reverse: the liberal and center-left move center and then lose.

But US politics doesn't have much leftist policy to shed, or many leftist politicians to exoricate, so it is more that even when Democrats win, policy stays right of center. Which is where the frustrated remark "both parties are the same" comes from, which everyone also shits on.

Since you know, the centre right continually stretches further right like a rubber band.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (9 children)

It's entirely the Democratic Party's fault if Trump wins another term. But their online cheerleaders are so keen to blame Communists who are such a miniscule percentage of the voting population. Are you going to start Muslim-bashing as well if they don't turn out in huge numbers to vote for Joenicide?

The sole "Trump will be worse" pitch and constant hostility is absolutely pathetic, and not an election winning strategy. Even your own party leadership knows it. The disconnect between the actual party and it's online supporters is huge.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Ah the daily fascism discourse multiplier thread. There's never any meaningful discourse that comes out of these: just divisive kafkaesque noise.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

I can't believe France wom that election

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