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[–] [email protected] 3 points 15 hours ago

What they're saying there is that when trying to auto detect the server configurations, there are unexpected connections to cloudfare IPs, which didn't usually happen with K9. Who posted the concern associated this to telemetry, but the answers are pointing a different direction. But at this point it just guesses, :(

I guess some more formal traffic inspection needs to happen to understand if truly there's unexpected traffic, where it is directed to, and hopefully infer somehow its purpose. The guesses about what's happening suggest it's just about the auto connection, but again, just guesses.

I explored the configurations, and I didn't find anything about telemetry, and so neither how to disable it. K9 does not have an about:config advanced configuration like desktop Thunderbird does, so if there's truly telemetry or some other sort of information leakage, then after proving it, perhaps developers realize they can do better. But so far nothing really proving telemetry or information leakage.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

What telemetry is enabled? Is there a way to disable it?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 20 hours ago

F-Droid produces its own builds, with its own signatures, so to get f-droid going, you'll need to install from F-Droid. However the import mechanism seems really nice. Perhaps you can install from F-Droid the official release, which can co-exist with your upstream installed beta release, import from it from the F-Droid app, then remove the upstream installed beta release, and if you wan to keep on beta, then install the beta release from F-DRoid (be careful right now, given a bug made K9 show up as beta release as well, but the app ID is clear, just being careful is enough), and then import from the official release, then remove the official release and you're all set. The idea is not to reconfigure a thing by doing those steps, and perhaps you wouldn't like to go to beta, and remain on the official release, which is not that behind, and perhaps better tested.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Did that, thunderbird release no beta, and no issues since I don't have google account. For people with google account requiring to re-sign in, and who don't often do so, signing in is really hard if they don't registered their phone number to google. It's sad, I commented about it in some other post. Understandable in reality they are different apps, but in the end it should be the same user ID, but nevertheless it's a PITA if people don't have a device permanently logged in, :( For them it's better to stay on K9,and hope K9 doesn't go away, or else find out how the heck to login to google once again.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

correct, that's the official release, the other is beta for testers...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Sadly, when having a gmail account, the migration is not possible, if the user doesn't keep permanently logged in somewhere. TB is not taking the current K9 OATH, and tries to establish it's own authentication, which on a K9 + desktop TB user not logging often to google at all, it's really almost impossible to login to gmail, since it ask as security the user 1st phone number, which could have never been registered to google, and beyond that it requests to use a different device which is already logged in, but it you go to the desktop, and attempt to login, it does exactly the same thing, the same stupid question or requesting for another device. So it gets into a loop of devices which can't be resolved. And for this other user I tried to setup TB for, they don't authenticate near often to google, but they use both desktop TB and K9 quite well.

For now, for such users, until they figure out how the hell to login to their google account again, they better don't try migrating to Thunderbird, since the import functionality is not quite enough to get google mail working fine, again if the user doesn't login to google often. A bit sad, though it makes sort of sense, since the apps registered to google would be different. Sad in the sense that an already working setup for gmail on K9 can not just be imported as is to TB, and keep just working.

While K9 remains working, there's no issue for such users though. Hopefully that doesn't happen,

It works great when not having a google/gmail account, :)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ohh, it needs to import though. I was afraid in case there would be sort of two different directories over the same data, or that on TB dir it would be to start fetching stuff. But it seems it literally copies over the directory contents, which is fine, since the then the other app could easily been removed.

And it works with TB non beta, I guess it works with beta for testers a well (though I like the release, and see how it goes). I'll be using non beta for now, a bit behind, I prefer to use releases rather than beta releases, and on f-droid I enabled unstable upgrades...

Anyone played with push vs. pull on TB? On K9, I ended up having both. With the last years changes, it removed the push option selecting from the fetching configs, but the push could be selected/deselected from each folder, and I keep them both. Pulling makes the requirement of not having restrictions on battery usage though.

Not sure if that's getting any better with TB (non beta or beta), and if push has gotten any better. In the end, imap push/idle pretty much depend on the server, and not so much on the client I'd guess...

Thanks !

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Thunderbird beta for testers?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (6 children)

OK, many thanks !

I'll just do nothing for now then. I hope if at some point a migration is required, it's sort of automatic, f-droid just starts using the Thunderbird app rather than the K9, without user intervention other than performing the f-droid upgrade, one and that would be it. But we'll see.

If you ask, knowing it's the same thing, I would have gone with just one app, replacing the other one, and that would be easier and clearer, :)

Thanks a lot again !

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submitted 1 day ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

I'm long K9 user, and I was aware of it becoming Thunderbird, but I need to clarify what should I do to easy eventual transition, hopefully without having the deal with all my K9 settings...

Today K9 turned into Thunderbird Beta for Testers, however there's already an app called that way Thunderbird Beta for Testers showing up on f-droid. Thoug the actual ID of each differ (com.fsck.k9 vs. net.thunderbird.android.beta).

What should K9 users do, to avoid losing its current settings (accounts, folder settings, encryption and so on)? Should we remain using the K9 app, and hope that when it goes away then the thunderbird app replaces it somehow automatically and pick all accounts and settings? Should this period when the two apps with the same name coexist be used to install thunderbird beta for testers, hope that it pick all settings from K9 up, and then remove K9?

It's somehow confusing, I was originally hoping at some point K9 just turned into thunderbird, but at once, automatically, without still having two apps, so I'm wondering what's next. For now I'm just still using the K9 app with thunderbird name...

Thanks !

Edit 1: Many thanks for those who replied, at least I don't have a google account, and no need to inherit the OAuth to google, or any other of such account for that matter, although I could remain to K9 I migrated to Thunderbird official release (no beta) without issues. It sounds like a good opportunity to migrate to Thunderbird.

Edit 2: It's sad that the OAuth can not be inherited, though understandable. For those who were just using TB or K9 for a long time with gmail, and the account gets into the infinite dependency loop of requiring a device already logged in, given the stupid security question has no answer, then perhaps it's time to ditch google and look for an alternative, I haven't found anything useful to help around there. Google actually sent a message indicated it has protected the user from herself, and inhibited her attempt to reach her own account. Meanwhile, just staying with K9 seems OK, since it's still there (just a metadata name corrupted but the app ID remained K9 still).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

good idea, thanks !

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Cool, many thanks ! I'll just wait a littloe longer then...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Oh, you mean using divestos-fdroid-repo? Well, before it became part of official f-droid I used to do that. I'm not sure how long it'll take to fix the official f-droid.org builds though, since I'd like to go back to it. The sad thing is that to move from one repo to another one loses all configurations/settings, :( But perhaps it's truly unsafe to wait until the build on f-droid.org gets fixed, if it ever does it.

Anyone aware if there are efforts to get it back building for f-droid.org? Does it depend on the Fennec issue getting resolved?

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submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/21673875

Cross posting so that the OP realizes this community is alive. I have no issues with qemu, which is installed on my system with no issues.

Posting here as there doesn't seem to be an active Arch Linux community.

I noticed while updating my system today that I have a bunch of qemu packages I don't recall installing. So I took a look at why they were there and found this:

Name            : qemu-base
Required By     : qemu-desktop
Install Reason  : Installed as a dependency for another package

Name            : qemu-desktop
Required By     : None
Optional For    : qemu-base
Install Reason  : Installed as a dependency for another package

It seems like qemu-desktop was a dependency for something I later removed and pulled in qemu-base. However, because of the dependency cycle, they aren't showing up as orphans and has just been hanging around in my system along with 150mb of other dependencies.

Correct?

Edit: Adding clarification on why this was cross posted, and no I'm not the OP.

 

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/21522958

(cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/21522265)

A group of people including Drew DeVault are trying to cancel RMS again, basing their claims on ancient misinterpreted quotes. Stallman may be controversial, but these activists are just acid for the entire Free Software movement.

 

Darn, and I just got Librewolf upgraded to 131.0, meaning needing to wait further for 131.0.2.

 

Is this total cookie protection something embedded, not requiring any user intervention? I know with librewolf we get the strict enhanced cookie protection mode, but I don't know if for this total protection there's something required, if not turned on by default...

Greetings !

 

Hello !

I'm wondering if there's some blogging mechanism which would allow some sort of unique digital signature (PGP perhaps) to prevent personification, but which allows non traceable and fully anonymous author. Not looking for blockchain like stuff (apart from the layer Monero adds, blockchains are totally transparent, traceable and non anonymous). Not looking for bigotry, attacking people or anything like that.

The idea is to be able to share ideas, even corporate related, without being afraid of retaliations whether at work, corporations or governments. Expressing something at pubic might bring unexpected consequences, particularly if not aligned by the corporation one works on if that's the case, or might provoke AI, bots, or paid/unpaid people looking around, to include anyone in a particular list, without even warning the writer about it.

So I was looking if such thing is possible, and if it exists. Social networks of course wouldn't be an option, they're not anonymous, and at contrary can be used to cross-reference and trace people.

If such solution doesn't exist, I'm wondering if something based on gnuNet might get close, although gnuNet is not meant to make users anonymous. Or perhaps something based on i2p.

Of course the digital signature should be used exclusively for the blog posting, and can't be associated to any real email, host, or whatever...

Feedback on the blog posts should also be allowed to anonymous people with their own unique digital signatures. But this is harder, since depending on the technology, not sure if moderation would be allowed, or even if it would make sense, in which case, no blog feedback should be allowed, though no feedback is really a down side for blog posts. Maybe allowing just the original post to remove feedback. Some other down side, but that's unavoidable, is the lack of non on thread feedback, meaning giving feedback through email or any other medium, since if that was available would make the writer non anonymous...

If such thing is not available, and eventually based on something like gnuNet or i2p, most probably clients would be needed to write blogs but another one that would offer some sort of RSS/atom functionality for the blog to be accessible from current RSS/atom readers.

 

This blog post, and some of its comments are pretty interesting and concerning at the same time. Not really sure if in the end that means that nothing other than centralized controlled messaging can be as cryptography safe.

Any comments?

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submitted 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

Hello, [email protected] was locked by my mods, and continued on [email protected] which is entirely fine given federation, so I guessed I could follow it on the lemmy sort of synced space/community, [email protected], where I can post to the slrpnk community without having an account there. But for some reason recent posts on slrpnk real xmpp community are not showing on [email protected], like if they're not syncing anymore.

Any way to remediate it?

 

Hi !

As I have account on lemmy.ml, I look into the lemmy community created on slrpnk.net through the federated lemmy community, but its contents don't match the ones on the original slrpnk community. There are some messages missing.

Not sure if this is something someone would care, but I was planning to look at the contents through the lemmy instance, where I do have my account...

Greetings !

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