mertag770

Looks like no new subclasses based on the description. Nor are there any races listed (what's the new term? ancestry? Species?) so this feels lacking in the character options as well. Maybe that bodes well for the setting materials?

• Discover 2 new backgrounds, the Gate Warden & the Planar Philosopher, to build planar characters in the D&D Beyond character builder
• Channel 7 otherworldly feats, new intriguing magic spells & more powered by planar energies

I play with 2 groups and one group does a main campaign and then smaller campaigns every n weeks so that way the DM has time to prep, adjust plans, and it's lower stakes if someone misses. Add in the occasional one shot or two and you churn through the interesting subclasses quickly.

I think subclasses are more inline with variant classes in 3.5. You had a cloistered cleric vs cleric and they had 2 domains. You had the totem barbarians, the divine bard vs the normal bard. Prestige classes were far more transformative than subclasses and subclasses don't feel the same to me in 5e.

@MartyMart I think that's the reasoning. I do think the issue tends to be overblown though, and in lieu of a new edition, I'd rather see more options for multiclassing or prestige classes since you can only play a pure class so many times before it feels very same-y.

Really sounds like they're backtracking on a lot of the changes. In some ways I like that, but some of what they're keeping are not my favorite, like the subclass choice at level 3.

For me I would rather see every subclass at 1 as many change the way you play enough that it feels abrupt from a level 1 and up campaign.

I believe that it's the dndbeyond copy based of the product description here https://dndstore.wizards.com/us/product/820931/phandelver-and-below-the-shattered-obelisk-digital-plus-physical-bundle

I don't think the prices increased for the core book bundle or the PHB/DMG but I haven't kept a close eye on those.

It's also worth noting that this shop is run via scalefast and I had some issues when I did the dragonlance preorder of getting my product on time due to scalefast.

I'm skeptical, but hopeful that it will be somewhat like the Outer Wolds, but maybe with slightly better combat? I'm just hoping the space combat isn't a large focus of the game. Not a huge fan of vehicle controls usually.