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I only had time to read it once but here are some interesting points:

  • This would put a 2-year moratorium on mixers.
  • It interestingly classifies 'Privacy Coins' in a different category than mixers.
  • States there are 'legitimate uses' for mixers
  • Would have the Secretary of the Treasury prepare a report that includes information on "The capacity of the Financial Crimes Enforcement Network, the Office of Foreign Assets Control, and Federal and State law enforcement agencies to track, prevent the transfer of, freeze, and confiscate funds that have been processed through digital asset mixers, privacy coins, and other anonymity-enhancing technologies"

Full proposal available here: https://casten.house.gov/imo/media/doc/blockchain_integrity_act.pdf

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Full-Chain Membership Proofs, as a concept, is a replacement for rings within the Monero protocol. While rings have offered sender privacy to Monero since it launched, they're vulnerable to attacks such as the EAE attack, have difficulties upon chain reorganzations, and in general enable statistical analysis (mitigated by distribution of the decoy selection algorithm). Full-Chain Membership Proofs prove the output spent is one of any output on the chain, effectively removing all of these risks. This means every input goes from an immediate anonymity set of 16 to 100,000,000.

Two proposals have been made for Monero offering such privacy, both under the "Full-Chain Membership Proofs" moniker (further mentions acronymed to "FCMPs"). The first was announced at MoneroKon in 2023, and was intended to be deployed with/after Seraphis. Seraphis distinguished between "membership", the output spent is one of some outputs, and "spend authorization", the output being spent is authorized by the private key holder. With that, much more efficient proofs for membership became possible, including the "Grootle" proofs it was originally proposed with (effectively a ring of 128). FCMPs further improved upon this, requiring Seraphis's new key/transaction format to do so.

The second proposal was made in March of 2024 in response to the spam attacks ongoing at the time. "FCMPs+SA+L", later shortened to simply "FCMP++s", independently adds "Spend Authorization + Linkability", removing the dependency of Seraphis. With further research and development, it was found to add several new features to the Monero protocol, without requiring the migration to Seraphis. These features include,

Transaction Chaining Transaction chaining allows signing a transaction spending another transaction, before the spent transaction is published and mined on-chain. This enables certain layer-two designs for Monero (such as some payment channel protocols).

Outgoing View Keys Outgoing view keys allow anyone with the outgoing view key to detect when received outputs are spent. Currently, Monero only offers incoming view keys, which do allow detecting spends with extremely high likelihood over the current protocol, yet don't provide 100% certainty. This certainty will make cold wallet setups and multisignature wallets much more efficient, having to bring the private key online far less often. It also allows defining a single "view key", without delineation of "incoming" or "outgoing", simplifying wallet UX.

Forward Secrecy Forward secrecy means an adversary with a discrete log oracle, such as an adversary with a quantum computer, cannot break the privacy of the protocol.

While Seraphis also introduces all of these features, it does so with a migration to a new anonymity set and a new address format (invalidating all prior addresses). The FCMP++ proposal not only aims to be faster to deploy yet to do so without the migration. This is enabled by the trade-off of not actually offering any of this functionality at launch however.

The deployed protocol would support all of these features. The wallet code to take advantage of it would be delayed, ensuring that we keep our scope small and achieve the largest goal, full sender privacy, as soon as possible. Wallets could then start taking advantage of these features on their own timeline, without further hard forks nor privacy issues. This would likely be done by merging the Seraphis codebase into Monero, taking advantage of its years of development and improved design. With that, the migration to the new key structures would be optional, and if so, the work done for FCMP++s would provide most of the necessary work for FCMPs with Seraphis.

FCMP++s are based off Curve Trees, and to make the overall proof much more efficient, Eagen's work with elliptic curve divisors. The overall composition has been largely specified, and is currently being reviewed and further detailed as appropriate. The development of the composition was funded, and an earmarked fund for academic review and auditing is still raising. If you are a member of the academic community and are interested in contributing, please feel free to reach out within the Monero Research Lab on IRC or Matrix.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

Q-anon is probably the biggest one.

Check out the HBO documentary 'Q: Into the Storm'.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Hey! It's not that simple! There's feces too.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

My gym explicitly allowes filming. It's something I knew and accepted when I signed up.

Either the gym shown allowes filming and didn't adequately communicate that to the guy or they don't allow it and didn't adequately communicate that to the woman.

Or one of them are ignoring the rules I guess.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If you trust them, which it seems like you do, to not sell your information for advertising purposes then maybe thats true.

They're still sharing your personal information with others. Maybe you trust Google to not use the information stored in your drive for ads or to sell you shit but do you then also implicitly trust every corporation that that give that data to? To you then also trust those companies to always handle and treat your personal information with the respect it deserves for all time?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Here's a relevant quote from their privacy policy:

We provide personal information to our affiliates and other trusted businesses or persons to process it for us, based on our instructions and in compliance with our Privacy Policy and any other appropriate confidentiality and security measures. For example, we use service providers to help operate our data centers, deliver our products and services, improve our internal business processes, and offer additional support to customers and users.

If you're OK with Google using your personal information to sell you adds or with then selling your personal information directly, then it's a fine option.

Again, i's a privacy issue. Some people are OK with giving up privacy for convenience, and that's fine.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Lack of privacy is a huge reason. If you're OK with Google scanning all of your photos to sell you adds and build their AI then it's a fine option.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Car manufacturers can make more money per vehicle on large trucks. So I'm curious what influence their lobiests had on this.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

He never says they're necessary but does explain how they're useful. Is the royal family not actually bringing in more money for the government than they're using?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Monero has mechanisms for validating supply:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vW9H6VIONWM&t=174s

If you're going to repeat this argument ad nauseam then at least don't do it in a misleading absolutist way.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Monero, if that's what you're referring to, has mechanisms for auditing supply:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vW9H6VIONWM&t=174s

If you're going to repeat this argument ad nauseam then at least don't do it in a misleading absolutist way.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Some nonprofit organizations are corporations and have pretty shitty practices:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kids_Wish_Network

The Morman church is another US 'non-profit organization' yet somehow hordes billions.

Trusting blindly without doing research because something is presented as a non-profit is a good way to be taken for a fool and separated from your money.

When signal made their own cryptocurrency which they entirely premined was a huge red flag. Dropping SMS support was an annoyance that broke the camels back.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

That's what they told me when gave then feedback through their website.

There's no free lunch and corporations aren't the most trustworthy source of information though so maybe it was about cost.

 

Cracking down on DNM sites is currently a low priority for the Russian government. The result of this has been proliferation of Russian language DNM sites that largely operate in the open and on an open blockchain.

How do you think things like global-scale shifts in power or protocol updates will affect the blockchains these DNMs operate on?

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