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[–] [email protected] 80 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think a law verifying your age over the internet inherently breaks the idea of a free internet, of which we are already seeing degradation of by Google and DRM/web integrity anyways.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I don't see how it doesn't violate free speech. Imagine needing the government's permission to talk to someone?

Edit: forgot a word

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

I agree. Even internet security protocols are at risk, and the dinosaurs responsible for writing laws don’t understand basic encryption let alone the idea that it is 100% a needed concept in a free, fair, and just society.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are already age limitations that are constitutional. You can’t run for office, buy alcohol, drive a car etc.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's not speech. You can age limit things, but not on speech. Beyond that, the limitations on speech have to meet certain conditions where it's in the publics best interest and doesn't put too much burden on the public.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Restricting access to explicit material is the same as restricting alcohol or tobacco.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Tobacco is not speech.

Edit: plus one is an economic regulation .The other is not. Like, you can smoke tobacco at really any age. Just can buy it at any age.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're still ignoring my first point which is the much more important distinction. It's not speech.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s not a free speech issue.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The literal lawsuit says otherwise. It's the first claim they wrote.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have my doubts it’ll succeed on free speech arguments alone.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I have my doubts that people should comment on things they clearly haven't read, but here we are.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think a law verifying your age over the internet inherently breaks the idea of a free internet

That was broken decades ago.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

today couldn't have happened if yesterday's degradation didn't occur. it's been slowly breaking for a while now.