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Interesting figure that comes out of the article: 87% of US teens prefer iPhones. Also the explanations given aren't quite surprising, I guess it's mostly because of iMessage. Teens will feel like outcasts if they get an Android phone while their friends still use iMessage because of the green bubbles.

It's actually hilarious how we allowed consumerism to take us this far and that we have now peer pressure over smartphones.

“You’re telling me in 2023, you still have a ’Droid? [...] You gotta be at least 50 years old.”

ouch 😔

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[–] [email protected] 89 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I am a teen and I love android becuase it give me freedom I can do whatever I want to do by rooting or installing Custom ROM. Also It's Privacy Focused(degoogled my Tab + Root). Other Teenager don't know shit about privacy and FLOSS fuck them I don't care.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Same boat here, no one else in my school cares about their privacy. They take everything for granted. They only see the surface level of the world around them.

I would never daily drive an iPhone. Or use any of the social medias they use. Or vape, vaping is a big one here in the UK.

I do think you're a bit too hostile there though, it's important we voice our concerns and not just lose all hope for them, even if they are hostile towards us.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

That fuck them mentality won't get you anywhere. Your phone is a communications device. You need others to be using free protocols and software, otherwise your phone will be useless.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Apple only got around to encrypting iCloud data last December.

The FBI dispute happened because the guy in that case was not doing iCloud at all. In that sense they're private. But if you've ever had more than one iOS device or are using iCloud backups they already had access to it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Thank you for the context!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Using iphones, you have to trust apple, because everything is closed source and no one can audit the code to make sure that apple isn't being nefarious.

Using AOSP (the open source android project) like CalyxOS or GrapheneOS, you don't have to trust--you know. All the code is open source and is continuously audited.

The same can be said about Mac's and Windows (both closed source) compared to Linux (open source).

Privacy is more than just a choice, it's a conscious effort.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I appreciate you linking your source, fighting for privacy (although good) does not mean they are actually private or even secure.

As it stands today, if you or your information is on the internet, you are vulnerable.

Edit: I forgot to mention, there are way too many tools out there to extract information from Apple/Android devices.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Apple has better privacy features than Google.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Nobody should trust companies with their privacy, especially when they always get away with lying and their tools are in no way auditable.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You are telling me the company which sells ads to you care more about you privacy than a HW company?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I never said that. Both have your information regardless.