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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Helico means spinning and pter means pter

[–] Zagorath 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Maybe you were just deliberately baiting for this, but no!

Helicopter's etymology actually breaks down into helico and pter. Helico being cognate with helix, and pter being "flying", from the same root as pterodactyl (flying finger).

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Great, and now I want a heliodactyl.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

etymology jokes on Lemmy.... ive Waited for this day for so long

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Super interesting.

Does that mean that we're pronouncing either helicopter or pterodactyl wrong? We don't say the 'pter' parts the same way I think?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

nah there's no "wrong" for a common native pronunciation. but for silent p- words specifically, the /pt/ and /ps/ consonant clusters just don't occur at the start of words in English. so the p goes silent in those words. pterodactyl, psychology. but in languages like Greek and German they do occur!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Depends on whether the o is before the p or after the r.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I thought heli is more like a screw. (Not claiming that it is, but that was my understanding)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The word is not "heli" though. It's "helico".

Like in the helicoprion (a shark with a spiral think on it's mouth) or a helicograph (a tool to draw spirals).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yes, that is where it comes from.

https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/helico

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/helico-

Doesn't change the fact that the word helicopter splits into "helico" and "pter" with the later meaning wing or feather in greek.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pter-

It's a helico-pter "spiraling wing", not a heli-copter.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It’s a helico-pter “spiraling wing”, not a heli-copter.

TIL

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The dictionary definition is "Anything twisted, winding, or spiral." but an inference can be made

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Pterodactyl - Pter Finger!
Then there's choleodoptera and lepidoptera.