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Google search failed to even find a hollywood movie, even after 1 hour of attempts. I don't really care about the movie, but I am terrified by the prospect that google now ceased to function on this basic level. Why is this happening?

I understand the explanations of seo and other stuff like spam content. But why are there NO relevant results at all.

I wouldn't mind having to start wading through results at page 2 or even 10 but now it utterly fails to find even the most basic things.

Things you found on the first attempt even just a year ago. Now they are effectively hidden.

To me functionally the entire internet has now vanished. I cannot access anything that I am searching for. Might as well not exist at all.

Has anybody found a way around this?

Is this on purpose? Is this an attack on the free internet, herding people to just the top 5 sites like facebook, youtube, tiktok, and so forth?

Are there search engines that still work?

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[–] [email protected] 76 points 10 months ago (9 children)

I've finally switched to DuckDuckGo because of this. Even though only about two months ago I said here somewhere that it's garbage. Google just managed to convince me that they're more garbage.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That's because DDG gets its results from Bing.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago

But without the chatgpt spam that has overtaken bing the last few months.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I came to the exact same decision a few months ago.

DDG used to be worse; now it’s better.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (3 children)

The only downside of DDG is that it doesn't have a decade or two of algorithm data to personalise your searches and sort of "learn" what you mean with certain terms.

Not like I miss it too much. It's just a mild culture shock to suddenly having to be more clear with my searches

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago

That's a good thing, in my opinion. I miss when Google results were the same for everyone.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

It just occurred to me that this ability to communicate with a search engine, that everyone used to call Google-fu, was exactly this! It didn't already know (or think it knew) what you were getting at, and it's took some practice to figure out how to finesse the results.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

You mean the upside is it doesn't track every behavioral trait? I can live with that

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I've been using Bing and choosing Google only as a second resort or for any shopping I do. If Google wants to be an ad filled shopping mall, I'll treat it as an ad-blocked shopping mall.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

In that case you should be using DuckDuckGo; it uses the same database as Bing, without the tracking of Bing, and with the ability to use ! commands to pull in results from other places (!g=Google, !w=Wikipedia, etc.).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

When I'm specifically shopping for things I expect to be tracked and advertised to. I'm just selectively deciding who gets to advertise to me.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Over the last year of me using DDG as my primary search engine it has noticeably improved, give it another and we might see a trace of that spark Google had

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

I find my DDG results are only getting worse with time.
Same problem as with Google, and then some.
Carefully craft search string and submit.
Click through to a result, scroll and try to find the part that addresses my question.
Get frustrated and Ctrl+F for the active part of my search string.
Don't find it.
Hit back to search results to repeat (but now the results are shuffled for some reason?)
Eventually give up and put the active parts into quotes to force their inclusion.
Same results.

Why am I getting these results if they don't even match my search string?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

been using duckduckgo for a while now. it definetely could be better, but google is just hot garbage.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

Ddg is my default, but I still find myself having to resort to Google when the query is not dead simple. The engine is good enough for most cases, but overall Google is just better imo.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

DDG is way worse than google. I am baffled by this comment.

[–] alansuspect 1 points 10 months ago

I switched a couple of months ago and so far it has been good. My only issues are 1) sometimes I'm looking up local businesses and I need their opening hours, that handy pane at the side on google was good for that. 2) when I click on a result on DDG then click back the results are different. Sometimes I just want to click on each link.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

It may be bing under the hood, but it gives simple results without having ads and giant boxes everywhere.