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apparently my city literally literally banned public rail funding, and people online love jerking off about how good biking is, so i figured might as well try. I have come up with:

pros:

  • good for mental health / exercise / endorphins
  • arguably quaint
  • feel like an old timey guy taking his wares to market
  • feel european
  • can annoy others
  • less of a police state around them vs cars
  • more flexible parking, routes
  • capacity to be peaceful
  • nice in summer

cons:

  • look like an annoying dork (esp w neon - which also hurts the quaint factor)
  • have to wear a helmet (^)
  • getting sweaty, potentially "unpresentable" for work
  • still have to find safe parking
  • still takes a while
  • have to find new routes to places
  • can't listen to music or might die
  • little meaningful protection against severe injury
  • can only carry so many groceries/etc
  • sucks in winter
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[–] [email protected] 37 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (43 children)

Rebuttals to a few of the cons:

  • don’t dress like an ‘annoying dork’- unless that’s your vibe, no need to change anything to ride a bike.
  • you don’t ‘have’ to wear a helmet. Though there are some less bulky, big, or wherever this cons comes from. Probably best to wear one.
  • no need to go fast and work up a sweat, or e-bike as other have mentioned. There may be financial rebates available. Other commuter tips include: bring extra clothes, and wet wipes to clean up once getting to.
  • until a matter transporter comes along, it takes time to go anywhere.
  • you get to find new routes. Find new shops, new neighborhoods, new parks. Feel like a part of you community. Not locked in a metal box or tube.
  • bone conduction headphones, or other non noise canceling headphones
  • there are bikes, racks and bags in any combination that can carry all sorts of groceries.
  • no bad weather, only bad gear. I’d say heat of summer is worse than winter.
[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (9 children)

no matter what gear you have you dont want to bike on snow

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

At 06:25 they explain that 35% of the people use special wheels with nails, so that's different of course (they also use such rails for the winter triathlon (running (with spikes), cycling (with spike wheels), cross country skiing)).

With such wheels it for sure is safer, if someone wants to go cycling in winter that's definitely the way to go. But if there are 20 cm of fresh snow you'll still get stuck, you need clean roads like in the video. If the roads are clean (at 09:20 they say that the roads are clean 24h per day, max. 2 cm of snow, absolutely highest they let it go is 4 cm but that's the exception, they also have an app that shows snow levels on each street in real time) and there's no elevation and no sharp turns it even works with normal tires, but that's rarely the case.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)
  • Those are tires, not wheels.
  • 35% which uses them means that 65% don’t use them.
  • You said "no matter gear you have", so you can’t use that point.
  • With 20cm of fresh snow, even a normal car would be stuck. But if you tell me that you use a special car (a pick-up for example), I will argue that you can use a special bike (such as a fat bike) and roll with it without problem.
[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago
  • Ty, always trying to improve my English. Comments like that are really helpful because noone corrects those things in real life, ig they assume they're trivial.

  • Refer to my last sentence in the comment you replied to (no elevation, no sharp turns).

  • Even with spike tires you'll struggle greatly as soon as you add elevation. But in one of the cities without elevation you're correct, yes.

  • Of course it'd be stuck, but generally the situation is, at least in my country: It snows, there are for example 20 cm of fresh snow -> roads get cleaned -> there's no / hardly any snow on the streets anymore. So the situation where you'd have to cycle on snow is when the snow is a bit deeper. If I really can't wait for the roads to get cleaned (which happens very quickly so usually it's no problem) I go by foot or use skis, depending on how much snow there is.

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