How about first we charge the real people doing real war crimes, e.g., Netanyahu and Putin? Then we can talk about whether mashing buttons is comparable.
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And so very many US presidents.
Yeah, I was considering listing Bush Jr, but then it would have felt weird leaving the others out, and I didn't feel like listing them all.
This is a great idea in so far as its never going to happen so we can just stop thinking about it.
real leaders aren't held accountable for real war crimes.
In the interest of preserving realism of the gameplay experience, gamers should not be punished.
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I had to look this up. It's from 2013 and it's a blog post, but it's real:
Over a decade of knee-jerk gamers responding without reading the article, how time flies
It's stuff like this getting flung around that helps me remember no one cares about reality
Accountable to whom? There's no victim.
This is a headline that idiots have been reposting forever without context - they're taking about IN THE GAME
That would be hilarious. Just one CoD that drops a patch and every player who committed a war crime spends entire matches in a prison.
they’re taking about IN THE GAME
Calling in an airstrike to win a round of Call of Duty and immediately transitioning to a JAG themed game of Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney.
Warframe players: That's not a war crime. This is a war crime!
Murders an entire battalion with biochemical weapons
Hey!
I mean, yes you're right, but: hey!
Genocidal space ninja FTW.
Stellaris players have left ~~the chat~~ life
Its not my fault if unwilling fungus people make really good workers.
How many egalitarian democracies do I need to make to pay off my determined exterminator debt?
I've made people who've rebelled against the hive mind edible and genetically engineered them to be docile and delicious.
Of course you have. That's what that game is for: creative war crimes.
On a side note, I recently did a tree of life plantoid budding build, they grew SO fast. I got big quick, started being really nice to everyone, integrated or vassalized lots of neighbors without having to fight much at all. I called them the vegan borg.
I've heard some philosophical musings on the dominant species of life on Earth being wheat, based on how much time and energy the global ecosystem spends cultivating and spreading it.
No, this is beyond ridiculous, videogames re not real life, they serve as an escape from relaity
It's still pretty dumb. What Senechaud is proposing is that not far off from the Hayes Code. He's also suggesting going about it the hard way. Instead of simply proposing that players not be able to commit war crimes, he's asking that there be an in-game system that punishes players committing war crimes in accordance with international law. His stance is also based on the premise that video games now have realistic enough graphics that they could be used to fake footage of real war zones. In no way does a video capture of Call of Duty resemble reality, even when players are deliberately trying to behave realistically due to a combination of things like walking animations still being kind of off, especially when starting or stopping, and gameplay concessions, like bullets spawning in blatantly incorrect positions when guns are shot. It's really obvious he's never played these games he's complaining about.
You say that, but Arma footage keeps being aired on the news.
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Should the article author be accountable for intentionally writing rage bait? Sources say "yes"!
The Guardian: "Should we hold gamers accountable"
Also The Guardian: "Anti-gender ideology is one of the dominant strains of fascism in our times"
Real "We Demand To Be Taken Seriously" out of the UK paper of record.
Classic Guardian!
Nah this can't be a real article.
It's real but it probably isn't what you think it is
Ah yeah Arma had an entire expansion on this theme. Press, Red Cross, and civilian playable models. It's actually a pretty cool concept.
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I am always the good guy in games! If anyone asks…
"Everyone liked that"
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Given how many times I genocided entire nations in Civilization, I guess they'd better send me a one-way ticket to Nuremberg.
This is why I only play zombie shooters. That way I'm only killing the concept of death.
You could also say you're a doctor fighting against an epidemic.
racks shotgun the doctor will see you now
I'm surprised Rimworld hasn't been mentioned here yet.
Two types of people out here on the Rim. Colonists and hats.
Does this also apply to more fantasy oriented war games?
No, the ICRC is talking about video games that simulate real-war situations. It is not suggesting that this apply to games that portray more fictional scenarios such as medieval fantasy or futuristic wars in outer space.
A few media reported that certain virtual acts performed by characters in video games could amount to serious violations of the law of armed conflict. Is this correct?
No. Serious violations of the laws of war can only be committed in real-life. A person cannot commit a war crime simply by playing a video game.
https://www.icrc.org/en/doc/resources/documents/film/2013/09-28-ihl-video-games.htm
PDX players too.
I've killed as many Helldiver's as I have bots in Helldivers 2. Am I a war criminal meow?
That seems... statistically unlikely.
I've only played about 10 bot missions vs about 500 bugs.
Then I take it back! Statistical likelihood increased!
is it a war crime to hit the griddy to the tune of cantina band after killing someone?
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