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[–] [email protected] 121 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

No one expects a state official to mention the fucking Inquisition to defend their own crimes against humanity.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Ikr! Pretty sure its a reference to the Spanish Inquisition's expulsion of Jewish people in the 1490s.

In other words it's not just super random whataboutism, it's also a dogwhistle to the "chosen people versus antisemitic rest of the world" narrative that Netanyahu et al use to drum up support from their base.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago

Israel's cries of victimhood were already starting to wear thin when it was focused on the Holocaust. Yes, it was a terrible tragedy, but it's 80 years ago at this point - very, very few people are left that were directly involved and the circumstances have changed significantly since then. But going back over five hundred years to try to find "gotchas" is just sad and counterproductive.

People are suffering right now and being persecuted right now, and it has nothing to do with the Inquisition or the Nazis.

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[–] [email protected] 86 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Terrorist state Israel threatens violence to enact political goals.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago

The real title right there

[–] [email protected] 76 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I'm sorry, are you comparing Spain to a religious crusade when you're literally in the middle of genociding an ethnicity and their religion? You're fucking insane Israel.

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[–] [email protected] 72 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Israel dismisses any and all criticism, and always complains about medieval history as an ad hominem attack. Turkey complains about Israel killing Turkish civilians? Israel replies something about Turkey mistreating Armenians. German government complains about mistreatment of Palestinians? Call them modern Nazis. Now Spain gets derided as something from nearly 600 years ago.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

The Armenian genocide wasn't that long ago, it happened during my grandmother's lifetime, and the current leader of Turkey still denies it was a genocide. But bringing up the Spanish inquisition in 2024 is wack.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Armenian genocide could have happened yesterday, OP was drawing attention to the raging whataboutism that forms a central pillar of Israeli politics.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I mean what else can someone say about Spain?

"You no good, uhh, soccer playing, erm, siesta taking...urm... flamenco...look over there, it's the Spanish inquisition!"

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago

Dear Israel: If everyone is a fascist but you, maybe YOU'RE the fascist?

[–] [email protected] 62 points 5 months ago (19 children)

Israel is making life very dangerous for Jews the rest of the world over, including myself. They want to make it sound like all Jews are Israelis because it helps their cause. Which, of course, suggests that all Jews favor genocide and that emboldens bigots.

And here we go again. Spain isn't persecuting Jews.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago (1 children)

FWIW, Fuck Israel, free Palestine - but you and other Jews got a friend in me.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago

Thank you, and I agree. Fuck Israel and make Palestine free and independent!

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)

On September 11, some Saudis attacked the World Trade Centre. America retaliated by going to war with Afghanistan, found they had nothing of value, and then Rumsfeld said since Iraq has oil, they should go after them instead. The unprovoked attack and illegal war that still, to this day, has had zero repurcussions against Bush, Blair and the rest who started it, and caused individuals from militant faction groups to rise up and attack those nations in the form of terrorist attacks, perpetuating a cycle of hate and loss.

More than twenty years later, uneducated people still fail to see the distinction between individual terrorists and an entire people who follow Islam. Islamophobia is on the rise right now simply because people are protesting the war in Gaza, and still equating those protesters to the terrorism from years prior.

I say all this because I can see how hate, and in your case, antisemitism lingers. Your actions are not that of the IDF, your words are not the same as aggrevators like Ben Gvir and your policies are not the same as Netenyahu's, but because you're Jewish, those things are all the same now in the eyes of many uneducated people.

It was the same with idiots attacking random (elderly!?) Chinese civilians on the street as a result of COVID lockdowns. The blame lies chiefly with the media and its incendiary bias towards all things that don't align with their backward views, and allowing people like Trump to stand on a podium and address millions of people with lies and baseless claims.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (3 children)

What happened to Muslims in America after 9/11 was disgusting and sickening and I felt so terrible for them when it happened and still do, which is why I know that this bigotry is unlikely to be coming from them. They know what it's like.

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 5 months ago

Israel threatening to 9/11 spain for telling them to stop doing a genocide.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 5 months ago (14 children)

Fuck Israel right in the ass with a 2x4.

They have become the very genocidal monster that they were once the victims of.

Fuck Israel.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 5 months ago (14 children)

Israel was never the Nazis' victim, Jewish people were. Israel is not equal to Jewish people and this is doing a huge disservice to all the Jewish people around the world fighting against this colonial state.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago (2 children)

As a woodworker I am compelled to point out that milled lumber is available in much larger nominal dimensions than 2x4. There's no need to limit yourself.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They are in the mood to fight everybody. They no longer care about optics. Genocide without borders to be continued.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 5 months ago (13 children)

As long as the US backs them up they feel invincible. I'm sure the nukes help, too. They're like Russia.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 5 months ago (7 children)

Israel and Russia acting pretty much the same way at the moment. Yet most of the Western world supports one while condemning the other.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (6 children)

I don't know anyone outside of the political class and a few right wing nutters that supports israel, especially after the images coming out of rafah in the last few days

edit: even my daily heil reading "shoot em in the channel" relative was perturbed

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 5 months ago

Bring it on, you fucking genocidal piece of shit!

[–] [email protected] 29 points 5 months ago (3 children)

threatening a nato state should go over well

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

israel has become the very definition of a rogue nation.

...exactly what the us wants from its middle east attack dog.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The Spanish Inquisition is over.... now begins the Isreali Inquisition.

Sigh.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 months ago

soaring to new heights of hypocrisy, Israel is acting as an inquisition in Palestine and crusading there.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

that's right moron, bring up something from hundreds of years ago so as to remove any doubt you weren't really living here in the real world, now, with the rest of us, as we try to stop our murderous governments from carrying out agendas nobody actually wants except sociopaths and murderous cowards like you

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 months ago (3 children)

146 countries recognize Palestine as a sovereign state so I guess Netanyahu will declare WW3 on his own.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago

I can no longer take anything the Israeli government says seriously.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago

Change starts at home, Bibi.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

Israel is the last country one would think that would do things like this to other people, considering their history. Its like they want to create validation for bad things people have said about them. Though i hope its same situation as in russia, regular people dont want to do those things but are so apathetic and fear their leaders so much they dont dare to rise up. Though in this situation they are likely also so well misled and manipulated they think they are doing the "right thing". Eitherway, current israeli leadership should just go, like previous german leadership. I really dont want to think majority of their country supports this.

This shit will likely be one of the catalysts for the next world war, at least it feels that way.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Israel is the last country one would think that would do things like this to other people, considering their history.

Jewish people maybe, but Israel is another story. They've been doing exactly this their entire history. From the Nakba of '48 to the invasion of Lebanon in 2018, the Israelis have a long and consistent record of picking fights with their neighbors and using centuries-old atrocities to justify their modern day brutality.

From sterilizing Ethiopian Jews to toppling the Nasser government over the Suez Crisis to conducting continent-wide arms deals for dictators stretching from South Africa to Central Asia, these are bad dudes and always have been.

current israeli leadership should just go, like previous german leadership

Funny thing about the previous German Leadership...

Germany's post-World War II government was full of Nazis: A new study says that half of all senior officials in Germany's Justice Ministry in the 1950s and 1960s were former Nazis.

The study, known as the Rosenberg project, examined previously classified documents to gain insight into the era between 1950 and 1973. Researchers found that some 77 percent of senior officials in the Justice Ministry had once identified as Nazis, a portion higher than during the Third Reich, the period between 1933 and 1945 when Adolf Hitler controlled Germany, and much higher than researchers expected.

The group included Nazi-era prosecutor Eduard Dreher, a man who sought the death penalty for petty criminals, and Max Merten, who played a role in deporting Jews from Greece.

While US authorities sought justice by putting 16 lawyers and jurists who played a role in the Nazi regime on trial in 1947, Germany tried one lone prosecutor after establishing the West German Federal Republic in 1949.

Many of those working for the ministry in the post-war years came from backgrounds as lawyers or judges in Nazi Germany, and came to the department to provide legal advice as West Germany rebuilt itself. By coming together and closing ranks, the network of former Nazis not only protected one another from legal prosecution but also bound together to create the nation’s laws.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago

United States of Israel

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Not only is the inquisition over, but Spain is welcoming Sephardic Jews and offers them citizenship. This is how one Palestinian refugee from Yaffa got Spanish citizenship.

A 26-year-old lecturer in architecture at Birmingham City University, Iskandarani has been stateless for most of her life, possessing only a Lebanese travel document that defines her as a Palestinian refugee.

But after discovering that her Palestinian father had Jewish roots going back to Spain, Iskandarani was able to claim Spanish citizenship thanks to a 2015 law that promised to naturalize anyone whose Jewish ancestors fled the Spanish Inquisition.

“Absurdly our conversion to Islam got us exiled from Jaffa yet again for again being of different religion and ethnicity,” she wrote. “Quite ironic don’t you think being exiled twice for the exact same reason?”

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago

I hate that people have to prove they have the right ancestry just to be treated like human beings.

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