We should make our rich and powerful worried about communism again.
this post was submitted on 29 Jun 2024
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Cities banning homeless people from sleeping outside while failing to give them any alternative is bad, but I think the constitutional prohibition on cruel and unusual punishment is a poor protection against that. This is the sort of thing we need actual laws passed to deal with.
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It’s really sad that a man, a born citizen, may not have the right to sleep on the literal fucking ground when he has nowhere else to go. These rich people decide he’s a criminal.
I mean, 99% of voters pick capitalists every single time, and then clutch their pearls when capitalist things happen.
On the plus side, it's still possible to do good things on the local level. (For now.)
What the actual fuck.
No it doesn’t work like that.
Sleeping outside while homeless I am sure isn’t a deliberate choice. Homeless people aren’t magic. They can’t conjure a building to sleep in from thin air. Making it illegal doesn’t give tgem magic building making powers or like teleportation or whatever these delusional idiots think it does.
It doesn’t give them magic building powers, but it fills up for-profit prisons!
Someone should start a petition to make the supreme court homeless.
Can you solve the equation?
Homelessness becomes illegal + For-profit prison system that's allowed by law to force prisoners to work + increasing cost of rent + lower relative price of labor =
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Situation of dog eats dog, increasingly pauperized labor market where the poorest layer of the population gets enslaved, and the second poorest, and the third poorest, and the n-th poorest all will also fall one by one, because guess what? Free workers now have to compete in wages with prisoners.
Their gonna learn the hard way there's no such thing as free work when the ~~workers~~ slaves burn their factorys down.
That's a refreshing thought, and I hope you're right.
If your labor is forced because you're incarcerated, you're absolutely justified in damaging your slavers any way you can. I'm not talking about work programs, unless they are "work programs" that you can be punished for not taking.
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That's the plan, fascism, everyone but the elite works the camps
Gotta keep those for profit prisons full somehow!
So whats the punishment a fine? Prison time where u use tax payer money to give them a bed and food?
In the city where I grew up in Canada, it was illegal to sleep on the streets. The punishment was a single night in a holding cell with no record.
This way, on cold nights, police would forcibly give people a warm meal and a place to sleep - there was a real danger of those folks freezing. The system worked most of the time, but if course, it really inconvenienced the purple who just want to be left alone.
But we all know that in America, that's sadly not gonna happen.
Does happen
The purpose is to push people into the for-profit prison system, which rakes in billions in slave labor.
Can you please provide a source for this
Nope, personal opinion. It makes sense to me that for-profit prison systems would lobby to make homelessness a crime, to gather more workers, and to get more money from the government. I don't have a source that says "Yes, this is the reason why." but you can follow the money and make your own opinions from there.
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a) to get your own sources I just met you I'm not taking homework assignments from you
b) the primary argument is philosophical anyway; it should be illegal for a wider society to profit off of incarcerated people. They can be made to care for their own space, grow their own food, sew their own clothes, whatever, but the moment you allow them to make license plates for the rest of us, grow food for the rest of us, or clean up after the rest of us, that's slavery, it's wrong, and it doesn't belong in a free country.
And no, I have no further interest in continuing to argue with someone who the most they can coherently manage to contribute is "source plz."
You're getting downvoted, but you're absolutely right. The only valid argument against your comment is that you're being a bit of an ass, but even that doesn't make you wrong. If a person can't handle a tiny bit of assholery, then they shouldn't be on the internet.
I've no patience for sealioning.
I didn't know what sealioning is, so I looked it up on urban dictionary.
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Sealioning
A subtle form of trolling involving "bad-faith" questions. You disingenuously frame your conversation as a sincere request to be enlightened, placing the burden of educating you entirely on the other party. If your bait is successful, the other party may engage, painstakingly laying out their logic and evidence in the false hope of helping someone learn. In fact you are attempting to harass or waste the time of the other party, and have no intention of truly entertaining their point of view. Instead, you react to each piece of information by misinterpreting it or requesting further clarification, ad nauseum. The name "sea-lioning" comes from a Wondermark comic strip.
I think the term is silly and there should be a better one for this concept, but lacking a better one I guess this will do. I'm sharing my learning so that others may learn from my experience.
also, now I fucking hate sealions, and I'm not happy about it. They used to be fucking cute.
The term comes from a webcomic, I doubt real sea lions act like this.
Now that I've seen the context, I really hate sealions, and I'm no longer sad about it.
fuck sealions, and I'm glad I now have a word for some shitty behavior that has annoyed me to no end for years.
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go get your own sources I just met you I’m not taking homework assignments from you
It’s the responsibility of the person who makes a claim to substantiate it.
Guess they gotta stay up like Freddy Krueger is chasing them....
The court has gone rogue.
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