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[–] [email protected] 112 points 4 months ago (2 children)

The article conveniently fails to mention whether it was sharp (extremely unlikely, the cheap steel used for these can't really hold an edge), and even more conveniently crops out the tip of the "blade" so we can't even see if it was pointed (also extremely unlikely, toys like this almost always have blunted tips).

This isn't a weapon, it's a toy. Sure, you could hurt someone with it, just like you could hurt someone with a baseball bat.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 4 months ago (4 children)

I reckon the police wanted to bust him for some other reason. The Master Sword was just their excuse.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 4 months ago

Before he obtains the tri-force of power and becomes unstoppable.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Police has that discretion and it is ripe for abuse.

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 4 months ago (5 children)

The blade was only 6 inches that's a master dagger at best lmao

[–] [email protected] 56 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Four months in prison for getting caught on CCTV fidgeting with a sheathed letter opener

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

The handle is just 4cm or about 1.5 inches, so a grown man can't even hold it in his hand properly, it is clearly a kids toy. He may have used for role playing, although he called it a fidget toy?

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 4 months ago (5 children)

victim surcharge of £154.

WHAT VICTIM??? The article says nothing of him doing anything to others. To my knowledge he didn't attack anyone. There's no victim!

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 months ago (1 children)

He is the victim. It's a charge on him.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Soooooo, either he should get the money, as the victim, or the charge is basically police charging victims money for being victims.

.....I feel like I'm missing something here.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (3 children)

This "victim surcharge" would be termed court cost or court fee in the US.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

With a bit more self-awareness, Bray could have avoided contact with us completely.”

With a shred of brain matter, Sgt Spellman and the bastards he works with, could have not pursued such a ridiculous “crime”.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Four months of prison? It sounds like the man is disconnected from reality but hardly a real threat to society.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Seriously. I've seen letter openers more threatening than that "sword". Was it dumb? Sure. Does he deserve a slap the wrist, absolutely. But prison?? No way. What the actual fuck?

[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The stupid thing is that the UK is literally running out of prison spaces currently so that we are considering letting long term prisioners out on licence early to free up room.

Yet apparently this man needs to have his life turned upsidedown in order to occupy one of those spaces for four months.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago

The cells are probably crammed full of cosplayers, student protestors and journalists. Remember that massive ruckus and manhunt for thee guy who was wandering around in a gimp suit making people feel uncomfortable?

"Our prisons have never been safer!"

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

It's OK though because as soon as the prison guards turn their backs on him he will immediately escape on an eight inch paraglider.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago

gotta throw the book at him to get the numbers up so they look better when it comes to ignoring serious crime.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 4 months ago (3 children)

In addition to the four months in prison, he was required to pay a victim surcharge of £154.

So not only was there no victim here but himself he is also now out of work for a minimum of 4 months he's now out 154 bucks. Fuck this world. Like ya, I get that there is that law for a reason, so sure, maybe give him a fine or better yet community service and then let him be on his way. What they have done benefits no one at all and wastes local resources.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I know people are reacting strongly, prob a large US contingent here and that’s understandable. It is a completely different world in the UK. The police don’t carry firearms (specialist response teams do) as they are just not as available to the general public. Knives or clubs/bats are the most common weapon encountered. Even in that context I too find the sentence pretty heavy on the face of it. The article was rubbish at giving anything other than rage-bait. It didn’t explain if there were circumstances of aggravation, does he have form (ie prior same or related offences), were there vulnerable people in the vicinity, which specific charge was he accused with (possessing or threatening with) did he plead guilty, were there mitigating factors that actually reduced his sentence as the mandatory minimum sentence for “threatening with a weapon” is six months, eg did he cooperate, is he a sole caregiver for someone at home etc.

Only thing I’ve walked away knowing is the author of the article seemed more interested in provoking outrage and upping their hit count than demonstrating any investigative nous or journalistic integrity.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago

Even though we have the gun nuts all over this fucked up country, we do manage to far outscore the UK on per capita knife crime as well. Yay us. I agree with your take on the motivation for the article.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Have police there never heard of a "letter opener"? 🤔

There's a reason "zero tolerance" is also called "zero intelligence".

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago

Have police there never heard of a “letter opener”? 🤔

At this point, a significant number of them are young enough to have never opened a letter in their lives, so possibly. But this is still extremely stupid.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Bit draconian hey. I admit the whole thing was stupid but considering he didn't hurt anyone with this toy or show intention to do so a fine alone would have been more than enough. 4 months prison? Wtf

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

It's the UK. They used to just aim guys like this at Scotland.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 months ago (1 children)

it was only 15cm long. that's at best a Master Dagger, not a master sword! still too long to be legal to carry out in public though.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago

It may be only a few centimeters, but you know what it could do if fully charged*.

(*I know, that's what he said or something)

[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 months ago

Ah yes, another victory for zero tolerance policies.

Everything about this is asinine.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 months ago

That old man lying motherfucker...

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 months ago (6 children)

4 months in prison for having a novelty pocket knife

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Just to be clear this was not in the US. Their weapons laws are way more restrictive then ours. Apparently he was brandishing it and approached police with it. Sounds like he is a moron.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That would be relevant if it was a weapon.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It still wouldn't be WORLD NEWS.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (13 children)

It was 20 cm long. Or about the length of 2 toothpicks. 'Brandishing'?

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (6 children)

MASTER SWORD = 22 cm or 8.6 inches including handle and holster.
We also have very strict knife regulation here (Denmark), but I think if it is a first time offense, he would have gotten off with a fine, since it's obviously a toy.

Seems like a perfect place for role playing games!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warwickshire#/media/File:Kenilworth_Castle_(cropped).jpg

Wiki page:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warwickshire

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago

Some NotTheOnion type shit.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago

At least it didn’t break in the middle of fighting a Lynel.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago (11 children)

The image in the article shows the entire thing being 20cm and the actual 'blade' portion of the toy being around 13cm long. a little longer than the blade on a pretty standard multi tool like a Leatherman.

Is this seriously what the police were actually concerned about, I understand that it's different in the UK vs the US, but this is definitely overkill. This thing would need to be pinched between your thumb and index finger like a cigarette to be wielded and is arguably less dangerous than a fork.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I feel like he could have been let off with a fine and confiscation where if he would do it again or act provocatively the prison sentence would apply. 4 months in prison is a lot

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago

Leave this old nerd alone

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago

They jailed my man Link smh

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

America is stupid for excessive guns. But this is stupid in the other direction. Talk about over policing. Fuck me this is stupid

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Prison? For this?

Just take it away and warn him. How did no one along the way protest the heavy handedness of this?

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

Lol finally, we can keep these dorks off the streets. Everyone can feel safe now

/s

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