Free speech in USA is a joke, it's both poorly protected and poorly regulated at the same time. Worst of both worlds!
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So. I have this... Stance. Humanity has at no point evolved past tribalism. We all live in tribes. The tribe with the most power waxes poetic about the importance of free speech, but the truth is, they only allow as much free speech as allows their tribe to maintain their position. All the rest of our tribes can squabble over whatever remaining scraps of power are left after the controlling tribe is full up.
That's certainly true for some people.
But I don't see the Democrats out there banning books.
Speak for yourself. I'm all for banning ghostwritten books by conservative talking heads so they can launder money and game bestseller lists.
Going after them for fraud would work.
I mean honestly that's how it should work. If they're writing and publishing disinformation that's not in the "fiction" section then there should be some kind of regulatory backlash (same with news/entertainment etc). It's like letting someone re-write history textbooks... but I suppose that's been going on for a long time already.
Implementation guidelines say that banned materials must be “legally disposed of” and “may not be sold or distributed”.
So, a book burning. Got it.
What about abandoning them in a heavy traffic area?
The book burners?
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WHAT.THE.FUCK.
Motherfuckin' can't read 'Superfudge' in Utah anymore? This is truly the darkest timeline.
Really? I assumed it would be Are You There God it's Me Margaret. What could they possibly find offensive about Superfudge?
What could they be against a book that mentions God in the title?
It's about a girl and her friends discussing menstruation, and wishing they could menstruate, and being jealous of other girls who already menstruate, and praying to God that they menstruate soon. I can see where that would frighten pearl clutchers.
Rhetorical! Thanks for the answer reminding us how against women these fuckers are though!
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"An entire book about a girl asking if God is there!? What a waste of time! The answer is 'Yes, God is there.'. We just saved you like 10 hours! (Though sometimes he may let you suffer or die without ever showing himself. But he's a silly ole God, and it was probably for your own good anyways.)"
“I’m gonna need you to step back about 20 paces there… You’re talkin’ about a woman, reading?”
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It's listed in the article. It's "Forever" by Judy Blume. Not sure that I'm familiar with it.
"so, any progress on the school shooting problem?"
"nah, we needed to fix the superfudge problem. now we're going to work on the pokemon problem. it doesn't glorify god!"
Pokemon don't evolve! They become more intelligently designed!
Why can't we ever get rid of fascists? Every generation they try the same crap and get away with it.
Because the same people taking away the rights are the ones saying that we can't retaliate for taking away our rights.
I suspect it’s just a personality type. Maybe we could use eugenics to get rid of this undesirable trait. Oh wait. Dammit
Why can't we ever get rid of fascists?
I believe this is where the second amendment comes in.
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Fake news!
You’re allowed to read them, it just has to be inside a dark bag with only magical stones for illumination.
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My Catholic junior high school library is where I discovered Judy Blume. I probably read every single book of hers that they had, and there were a lot!
So…calm down, Utah. It’s okay.
Shithole 3rd world country
It'd be funny if people who owned properties beside the schools just set up one of those take one leave one community street libraries filled with all the banned boom
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Wow, as a "privileged white cis man", I loved JB's books. Fuck any dumbasses against JB.
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First they came for the books, and I did not speak out, because I am an illiterate Republican.
FFS Utah, your lucky you have pretty rocks, but you got to knock this shit off.
Can we nuke the Moron theocracy yet or is that ffowned apon?
In a few years, all the toxic chemicals at the bottom of the great salt lake will take care of that after it dries up.
Yeah but then theyll roll back the Arizona and destroy any potential Idaho has, I want shadows not refugees.
I'm pretty sure these weirdo losers have already succumbed to the toxic chemicals.
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That list is 13 books by 7 authors.
Not good, but the summary is wrong.
Edit: the article needs some proof reading
Yeah. An editor checking the headline would help.
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While I hate this, I'm left wondering why we even mention the authors gender.
Is it to indicate that lawmakers go against women's freedoms?
Yes. A lot of book bans have been focused on books written by women and minorities.
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Fucking imbeciles.
Progressive districts need to get the bible and book of mormon banned
Outlaw Utah. Call it a day.
Sigh. Way to guarantee all the young adults are going to read the Twilight of shitty vanilla fairy melodramas.
Reading is something for everyone and anyone to enjoy. while a piece of art could have technical flaws and shortcomings, if someone enjoys it GREAT. We all like liking things. Don't shame them for liking something just because it makes you feel more well read.
Its also OK to point out when a piece of literature is badly written and, subjectively, not very good. The person you responded to was shitting on the work, you inferred the shame on the reader. One should not feel that a criticism of a work (however well founded the criticism is) is an attack or attempt to shame someone just because they happen to like it.
There are plenty of works that are popular but written like shit. Its fine to like them, and its fine to point out how the writing style is bad. As another example, Ready player one is somehow a popular story even though the writing is terrible. I would never shame someone for reading it, but I'm also not going to pretend like its a good book or not full of lazy references to popular media properties.
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