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The participation seems way down recently. What did I miss?

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (8 children)

Yep it's down a lot. I think it's because it's just memes and also quite hard moderation and downvotes. It feels like a reddit clone that has the exact same mindset as reddit. I get annoyed when I see people being moderated for having an opinion that is not popular.

I saw a post being locked yesterday for asking about moderation. Doesn't anyone else see the problem with that? Your channels rules are not more important than making people feel they can talk and express what's on their mind.

I hate that so much. Stop treating people like they are just resources to moderate.

I don't see much discussions. But I'm sure there is a few here and there.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah the aggressive mod removals on a platform that is starved for interaction is dumb as fuck. I haven’t had much of my stuff removed, but when someone replies to me and it’s removed before I can see what they said it irritates me to no end. Let dude make his shitty point so I can engage in toxic online dick wagging stupidity like I want to god damnit.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Turns out the shittest people from Reddit came here and became mods, who woulda thought lmaoooooooo

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

I've been getting some flags to mod remove some stuff. I read them and look into each one, but I need a damn good reason to take action and I rarely see that. I see some stupid, but everyone has a right to that, or a bad day. There are lots of things I don't like or agree with, but only a terrible mod enforces their opinions or is unable to separate themselves from the role of a mod. A bad mod is a visible mod. Feel free to point them out. People can change, and admin should be made aware. Heck, if it is me, I want to know where to adjust my biases or how to better explain my actions.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I second that. If you express unpopular opinion in the most civilized way, engage in the discussion defending that opinion you will still get banned/downvoted because mod was in a bad mood. I've blocked many big communities because of that.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I think it's because it's just memes and also quite hard moderation and downvotes

Could this be specific to the American election?

I feel like I've seen more items in the moderation queue recently. I can't say I've had to act on more items though

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't know, I guess it's possible. I just get so annoyed when posts are locked or removed entirely. There is rarely any reason for that except removing work from moderators. If we optimize for as little moderation as possible, I think it means that everyone remaining are just agreeing with eachother and the others left.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

This is good feedback, and I agree. I try my best to limit moderation to content that needs removing, and simply vote on the rest.

One thing I find is that mods are more likely to remove/nuke a thread when they're stretched thin or there is a wave of rule breaking content. Bringing on more active mods can help so that each mod can spend more time scrutinizing each post.

The other great thing about the Fediverse is that you can make your own version of a community if you disagree with how one is being run. I've joined a few communities with different styles of moderation

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Feel free to report such behaviour on [email protected]

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

I love the name. :)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's also because there's sooo much dross and very little content.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (7 children)

Yeah because first of all, content had to be spread out across 562826 different communities for no reason other than that reddit had lots of communities, after growing for many many years. It started with just a few.

Then 99% of those were created on Lemmy.world, and every new user was directed to sign up at Lemmy.world.

I guess a lot of people here are younger than me and didn't experience forums, but we had like 30 forum channels. That was enough to talk about anything at all. And I believe it's the same here, it would have been enough. And then all channels would have easy to find content.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah I always personally hated the idea of locking posts. Let people wage their war, every party can disengage at any moment.

If anything discussed is illegal or borderline, just start banning those who break those rules.

If someone has a shitty opinion, people can learn from the replies as to why it's shitty. Every stupid comment has the potential to teach.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 2 weeks ago

I can only speak for myself:

I'm here, still reading and voting, but I haven't posted/commented as much recently.

Life got a bit busy, should be back to normal in a bit

[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The irony is that those those that aren't here can't answer why they left.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Mostly making sure I didn't miss some new drama thing or whatnot. Usually those have peripheral observers that will speak up. Friday nights (SoCal) are kinda hit or miss anyways, but we've been trending down a good bit recently.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What communities do you check that are more quiet now?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

I generally watch the total highest votes counts for top posts at 6, 12, and 24 hours to get an idea of the overall traffic patterns across all instances federated with dot world. I have several instance logins to help federate communities I create, but rarely use them. Sometimes I will use them to see if other instances have higher top post counts.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You're SoCal? One of the things I do miss about the other place was the Los Angeles sub. The one here is practically non-existent.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Contrary to certain self-victimizing sentiments, I think that the problem is that the platform is more and more overtaken by the topic of the election (and Israel in reference thereto) and it just results in interminable arguing in circles that accomplishes nothing but wasting time. Regardless of the outcome of the election, I think less-annoying activity will increase afterwards.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

A lot of users on here have an unhealthy obsession with bringing up awful events everywhere all the time - donating and raising awareness is good but turning every topic around to be about specific conflicts and political happenstance in a forum already saturated with that content isn't encouraging for other people to engage and probably isn't conducive to mental wellness either

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 weeks ago

The_piccard_manoeuvre is in holiday.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago

For me, life is happening and I just have less time

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I've been wondering how much of that is back to school. I have the sense that Lemmy has a lot of younger users. I can't judge though as I've been inactive for long stretches due to life. I've been trying to contribute more now

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

I always get the impression the average user is a millennial

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago

Well, my guess is people got depressed discussing who is the less genocidal candidate to govern the most military powerful country on Earth.

[–] Nath 13 points 2 weeks ago

It feels like everything in All is about an election in the USA, and that's really not very engaging to the rest of us. So I mostly hang out in Local for the most part.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Eh, I usually just lurk, unless I have something meaningful to contribute (which is rare, my mind is blank and tired most of the time)

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Don't worry, I'm still here

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

i'm glad you're here :3

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

federated platform splits userbase into a million little fiefdoms, only somewhat interconnected, all differently starved for interaction

Yup, checks out

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago

Down down to goblin town.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Was (not was) - Walk the dinosaur featured on the live action Flintstones movie.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Start of school breaks in some countries in Europe. Could have an impact as people are busy with their kids

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

Life is full of cycles. I’m traveling these days but I’m still here.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

Was immensely busy and focused to finish my university meanwhile trying to get bit of peace through reading books and gaming.

Also nowadays mainly use rss-feed for everything (Blogs, News, Reddit and Lemmy).

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

People made too many power user praise posts and all 3 of them decided to take a break

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

Considerably less powerful users, rise up!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

Just not getting the interesting questions as often afaict.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

Also feel free to join [email protected]

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

For me, there's just been less posted that I feel I have something to say on. If I see something about programming, networking or tech that I have (probably) some useful info to contribute I will do so. Likewise if there's a general subject I have anecdotal points to make, or I'm just genuinely interested I will comment too.

But otherwise, I just read and move on. There's been a lot more read and move on lately. Maybe because of the upcoming US election for which by and large beyond the fact I don't want the orange shitgibbon (As a fan of the west wing, I like that the spelling checker suggested shibboleth to correct this "typo") to win, I don't have much interest. Mostly because I'm not from the US.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Just for me personally - I've tried going back to traditional forums. It's irritating that when I sign up and contribute to a board a few times, I get a temp ban for potentially being a bot

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