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[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Anyone who thinks Trump is the sole problem and that him being out of the news will solve all the problems is clueless.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Also, if they think he'll just fuck off if he loses, they've not been paying any fucking attention..

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

I can't wait to see what he does when he loses.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That was not the claim. Just that Trump news are nasty and Trump is one of the few Republicans who has enough charisma to end up in the news. If he gets voted out, there is a good chance of him never running again and fading away into the background. It means the Republicans need a new leader and whoever that is, is probably going to fail.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If he gets voted out, there is a good chance of him never running again and fading away into the background.

By no means. That's what people thought in 2020, and look what happened.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Anyone who thought Trump wouldn't run again completely misunderstands what motivates him. And anyone who thinks Trump will run again also misunderstands what motivates him. Trump's whole schtick is that he was cheated out of the election, but losing twice in a row sends a pretty clear message, and he'll lose the support of the party. Also, he'll be 82, and likely won't have the same fire he has today.

He's a complete narcissist, and I don't think he'll risk losing three times in a row. The next election, if it happens, would likely be a landslide (who wants to vote for a loser three times in a row?) and a massive hit to his ego. A close election gives him the opportunity to claim the election was rigged, and being able to pull that off twice is probably enough for him to save face.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 week ago
[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Trump is one problem in a world full of problems, but goddamn will it feel good to be rid of him all the same.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I almost can't remember what the internet was like without seeing his name or face every day. I miss it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The internet you remember before he came around is dead, never to return. It's not his doing, it's the complete and utter corporate takeover of the internet, and the funneling of 95% of the traffic to 4 sites. It's the algorithmic content presentation, and the curtaining of real friendship content. It's these platforms refusing to show you what you want, and only showing ads and boosted content, which is essentially an ad. The Internet is dead. Long live the Internet!

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago (15 children)

Trump isn't going away, even if he doesn't win. That's what people thought in 2020. Now that Biden's president, Trump will just disappear, right? Wrong.

And yes, I know he said that he won't run again in 2028, but I don't believe it. His cult would beg him to run again, and he'd do it.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I think he'll be either dead or not lucid enough to run personally

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We can all hope, and this time we're probably gonna be right.

But the Republicans aren't running out of people.

There's no reason to think Trump's end will make the bad half of America stop this push. There's a relatively good chance they'll find a sufficiently appealing new leader or puppet. If that falls, maybe you can rest and go back to casually provoking the religious right, playing catch with your rights, and still stay safe for a while. Members of the LGBT community dropping "Live and let live." in favor of "Use the right pronouns!" was a potentially fatal mistake.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

While you're definitely correct that Trump isn't the last bigot who will run for president, none of them will have rhe same level of influence he did.

Trump is a literal cult leader. You have pastors like Shane Vaughn who literally call him "a messiah." He is literally worshipped. That's why he could get away with Jan 6th, that's why he'll have so many voters no matter what, it's a cult.

With the above said, the his defeat will dishearten his mkst fervent followers. I believe many of them will never be able to bring themselves to vote for another candidate, ever. Not all, but many. Republican voter enthusiasm will be at an all time low.

Following this, the infighting we already see will only get worse as would-be successors fight for the scraps that their titan left behind while others fight to leave Trumpism in the dust. Even if they manage to get a majority, they'd accomplish nothing meaningful.

Their entire plan hinges on Donald Trump's cult influence. The depend on his rabid base of supporters. If he loses this election, that goes away. The remnants will be fought over, but none of them will be able to touch the level of influence Trump himself had. His legacy will leave the Republican party fractured for decades.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)
  1. He did go away for a while, but not by choice. He was banned from Twitter, his reddit group quarantined, and news stations fucking finally decided to stop reporting on his every stupid statement
  2. Of course he won't run again in 2028, he'll be dead. The dude looks like he's knocking on ~~heaven's~~ hell's door right now.
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

Yeah, he's 78, and I doubt he'll hold up at 82.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (3 children)

He might be gone, but his cult isn't.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The nazis pinned so much of their cult on his engorged, dying pus sac of a body that they may lose a substantial amount of steam if he loses.

A loss of steam that needs to be aggressively and ruthlessly leveraged to undo and bolster against as much of their nazi bullshit as humanly possible.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago

I'm Canadian and can't vote in any American election.

I hear more about Trump than I hear about all of our politicians combined.

I just don't understand how people can get so excited all the time about this stuff. Like, being so invested in some rich assholes life that you'll commit treason and break into Congress to wander around aimlessly?

Why are you like this? Make politics boring again.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago

Please execute him for treason like they would have any person of color in his place.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Four options:

  • He's finally prosecuted for his countless crimes and lands in jail for life
  • Natural death/diagnosis of dementia
  • He's voted out
  • He's elected and someone with better aim tries their luck
[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't expect him to live a full term even if he's not assassinated, and Vance is a fascist without dementia.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

Arsearseinated.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

He's finally prosecuted for his countless crimes and lands in jail for life

Fucking ROTFLcopter. Yeah right.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago

To the people complaining about US politics overshadowing all other discussions. I too wish US politics were unremarkable.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Even if he loses again, I'm sure we'll be dealing with this piece of shit until the fucker dies. Then we'll have to deal with a new piece of shit. 😮‍💨

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Agree with the sentiment for sure, but would also add that a lot of Americans like him, they LIKE what he said, he was heavily supported at last count. Even now he is supported substantially.

That is something many people need to think about. What happens next election? He won't be the last.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago

i'm doing my part!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Voting him out will not remove him from your feed. You will hear about how the election was stolen again. About how his disciples tried to destroy the capitol or the white house or whatever, again. You will hear about how he was out on trial again. You will hear about whatever new crap he comes up with.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'd rather watch him flail about after losing again than watch him execute his ~~mass deportation~~ genocide plans.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago
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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

We’re trying! Sadly we are wedged between two factions that are hell-bent on getting him elected.

One, purposefully- the other, ignorantly.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

“Dear ~~USA~~ conservatives…”

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (9 children)

sadly, voting him out does not erase him.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

That's the real reason not to re-elect Trump, there's no way he'll be relevant again. I mean fuck do you think he'd even alive to run in 2028.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

As if Trump is a source of all problems in the world

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Getting rid of Trump doesn't have to solve anything. I'll still feel good to know he didn't get something he wants. That's petty, and that's fine. So is he.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Getting rid of Trump is a chore, not a victory!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And yet, when it happens, I still plan to celebrate.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

If I learned something from psychotherapy, it's that I should congratulate myself on doing chores

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Trump voters want to talk about making towns safe, permanently removing people who cause problems or don't play along properly, and make a society where white men to a greater extent can do some kinds of horrible abuse behind closed doors with everyone knowing, most people tolerating it, and only a few authority figures able to do anything about it if they want to or are pressured to.

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