Some likely don't want retribution from their far right family members, others didn't want to talk politics with Uncle Bob, who will talk and talk forever if you don't agree with him, others want to mess with the polls.
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Dont be too confident in the secretly voting Dem demographic. Unfortunately, that pendulum swings both ways. It can just as easily be Trump supporters who don't want to face social consequences for that choice as well.
There are a lot of ignorant gen-z men with a victim complex and a TikTok account that are closet fascists and follow right wing propaganda targeted towards a younger audience. They might not want to admit that they are pathetic losers to their friends and family.
You had me up until friends.
Unfoetunately fascists form communities, so they do have friends. That's why it's so hard to get through to them.
IMO they have fellow fascists, until they make a mistake and find how shallow the relationship is. I find it hard to imagine people choosing hatred over skin color will stick around if a relationship starts taking any effort.
Trü trü
Exactly, that's how 2016 was. I suspect it's the same this year, although given how dependent Gen Z is on parents financially, I'd still get the secret Harris supporters have better reason to withhold the truth this year. I can't imagine a Harris supporter kicking out their Trump son (even if they're definitely disappointed).
I sure as hell wouldn't wanna get kicked out over my vote. And really, that isn't even a Gen Z thing honestly, my dad got kicked out at 15 for leftist views and that was the 70s.
I can see that. If you're a hateful or bigoted person and you tell people about that then they like you less usually, so by not telling people about your trump support you would lose less friends
I assumed Uncle Bob was pro Palestine over all other metrics and was voting 3rd party.
"Voters across the political spectrum said they've lied about their voting: 27% of Democrats acknowledged it, while 24% of Republicans and 20% of independents did so. The survey didn't ask exactly how, why or to whom they'd lied."
Also....
"40% of voters said they planned to wait until Election Day to vote, just in case something changes — with another 8% saying it will probably be a "gut decision" in the voting booth."
Anyone that hasn't decided by now is a racist bigot in denial.
I take it as a major moral obligation to lie to pollsters. For similar reasons, when using a proprietary LLM, I make sure to inject completely random profanity in all my responses to poison their training data.
ALL polls are push polls.
Become unsurveryable
I remember when I was in 7th or 8th grade, everyone had to take an anonymous mandatory survey. That day I was a chronic hard drug user. The amount of drugs I was allegedly taking would have bankrupt a millionaire. Absolutely a waste of everyone's time and money.
"Significant minority of people lie in polls, a poll reveals."
Welcome to ... well, all of history? This isn't news. There have been plenty of times and plenty of reasons throughout history where people have needed/wanted to lie about who they were voting for.
If a pollster somehow gets through to me, they are not get a reasonable or PC answer. I'm telling them all sorts of terrible things I think about their uninvited solicitation of me, and where they can shove. If I wasn't a petulant child that responds to cunts that way, I still wouldn't give them anything. I won't put a sign outside my house, because Republicans are fucking crazy and self proclaimed "domestic terrorists", and staying off any of their lists is certainly a forethought.
Who polls the pollsters?
Im voting for deez nuts.
Good. I long for the day 'who are you voting for' is normally met with 'shut the fuck up'
When it's impolite to discuss politics, the only people discussing politics will be assholes.
The only people discussing politics are assholes.
Agreed. We should fix that by making it socially acceptable to discuss politics. We start that by first stomping out all the Nazis.
Compared to the enlightened discussions we have as things are? Social media made talking about politics more ubiquitous than ever and it only made things worse. Also this may surprise you but you can talk politics without disclosing who you vote for.
I'm saying this is how things are. It is currently unacceptable to discuss politics in public. It's impolite to point out bigotry or fascism. It's uncomfortable to ask someone if they are batshit insane. We should normalize normal again, and we can't get there if social norms preclude discussing the malignant hate-based ideology that is prevalent right now.
And why is it necessary to disclose who you're voting for to do any of that? In fact I'd argue not disclosing who you vote for makes these conversations easier because you cant just instantly jump onto us vs them mentality and tune someone out before listening.
Because if you're not voting for Harris, you're supporting a racist, rapist, fascist felon who wants to use the national guard to murder me and people I care about. Pardon me for being curious.
Im pretty sure comments like that is exactly why these kids are lying about their votes, pardon me for reading the article.
I'm OK with it. If they're ashamed, they should be.
Seriously. If you try to talk about a political issue at face value without making your "side" clear then people fill in those blanks for you as though you made a mistake in being too ambiguous.
It is important to lie here, I think, as pollsters results definitely manipulate outcomes of election strategy
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