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German Social Democratic Party leader Saskia Esken has boycotted a Bernie Sanders event over his supposedly anti-Israel statements. Bernie’s statement? “The targeting of civilians is a war crime, no matter who does it.”

ED: A recent episode with a popular German political podcaster

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t01qZutfh4M

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[–] [email protected] 172 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Fucking virtue signaling for team Israel.
It is OK to criticize or express caution about Israeli policies and government. That is NOT antisemitism.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

Might not be all that commited to her virtue signalling, at that.

Someone who closely monitors her wikipedia page is trying to keep this information on her political position from appearing there...

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's antisemitism to insist that Jewish people who don't even live there are connected to Israel's crimes aginst humanity

[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Sure, I don't know what that has to do with notable Jewish senator Bernard Sanders that lived in a Kibbutz in Israel at one time, though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Quite notable, that Bernard.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

kbin and trashy ignoramuses, name a better duo.

[–] steakmeout 1 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 122 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A member of Senator Sanders’s staff said that as far as he knew, “Bernie had never heard of Saskia Esken, but I’m sure he would have been pleased to meet her.”

Hahahaha

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@roguetrick this is even better than Don Draper "I don't think of you at all."

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Damn, I should rewatch that show. It was goddamn great.

[–] [email protected] 112 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So ... the German is boycotting the Jewish guy's event over his statements regarding the morality of war crimes. The Onion is doomed, we're out of satire.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No way, dude… have you seen the Onion this week? They are killing it and should be accused of war crimes any minute now.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Oh they can’t possibly be. They sided with Israel - because it’s politically safer

[–] [email protected] 79 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Lol I just can’t with these people going after Sanders, who is Jewish

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

He's the wrong kind of Jew.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They want the placid, malleable kind of jew, not one who has his own opinions.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

They want Zionists, if you aren't a Zionist Jew, what good are you?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

He represents 17% of the Jewish population. https://g.co/bard/share/8f756e99642e

It's nice to read a non-biased AIi opinion on the zionism matter. https://g.co/bard/share/81ff92a41241

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

When they said "Be a light unto the nations" they were referring to the white phosphorus***.

***Alleged

[–] steakmeout 1 points 1 year ago

I'm Jewish. What's your point? Does every Christian, Muslim or Hindu have consensus?

I don't agree with a fuckton of Israel's policies regarding The West Bank and Gaza and I think Bibi should have been in jail 20 years ago. Does that make me less of Jew? Can you also not with me?

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Literally the only American politician with any integrity who stands by his beliefs and ofc he never wins an election. This is why we can't have nice things, because apparently feeding homeless people is communism but subsidising dying fossil fuel industries is patriotism.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

I wouldn't knock the electability anyone who can win senator or governor, particularly for as long as Bennie has held on.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Saskia Esken is being antisemitic by silencing and shaming Jewish voices

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

My father taught me something early on which I paraphrase as "when in doubt, shut the fuck up". Clearly that lady was not taught that lesson.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

It is better to be thought of as a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Germany will keep simping to Israel till the end of time. lol Isn't Bernie Jewish himself?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago

German politician is against Jew who made a clear stand against war crimes.

Sounds familiar, somehow.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago

Lunatics take positions like this.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

If indeed only this sentence was the reason for Esken to cancel the meeting - it is a clear overreaction. Nobody should be on board with targeting civilians - meaning: they should not get attacked on purpose. Never.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

According to the IDF, targeting civilians is their right.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

I like that Bernie's response to "eat the rich is" "No, no, no, that's a start, but it's not enough."

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

A member of Senator Sanders’s staff said that as far as he knew, “Bernie had never heard of Saskia Esken, but I’m sure he would have been pleased to meet her.”

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

objectively the moderate wing

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Oh no, now she won't be buying any more Bernie Sanderses!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Liberals are very quickly taking a turn into undeniable fascism. I was concerned what might happen when the climate wars truly begin, but now I don't have any concerns, I know.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

The SDP has been a joke for a long time and it will continue to be a joke for quite some time to come.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

"Social democrat" is just capture of socialistic values, dispersed under the umbrella of liberalism. Social democrats still support new public management, "global markets" and privatisation of everything. In effect they relish in the slavery that these markets impose, a race to the bottom where human life is worth nothing, while pretending they are doing something different.

They are in effect establishment politicians.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Germans generally aren't the best authority on treating the jews, so...

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago

SocDems being entitled clowns, with a sprinkle of fascist/capitalist sympathies? I am shocked, very shocked!