Banned? DM Wmill to appeal.
No anti-nautilism posts. See: Eco-fascism Primer
Vaush posts go in the_dunk_tank
Dunk posts in general go in the_dunk_tank, not here
Don't post low-hanging fruit here after it gets removed from the_dunk_tank
I'm going to make a 6-pack of pre-packaged Moscow Mules where one can has like 2000mg of caffeine in it and call it Russian Roulette.
Moscow mules
white Russian was right there. No? Too sweet?
Kahlua already has caffeine in it. It seems more apt to be putting a fuck ton of caffeine in something that normally has none lol
Inside of me there are two wolves - the personal responsibility neoliberal who is annoyed that people don't read the warnings and kill themselves, and the social responsibility communist that understands that it's ridiculous to expect everyone to make an informed decision before doing seemingly trivial things. The communist wolf is beating the shit out of the neoliberal one, don't worry.
Hey this is not a conflict at all , "Personal responibility" is complettly compatible with communism ,.. have you ever heard of "the Wall " ? 
actually the only reason that was justifiable was because the ruling class will only give up power by force
“The Lemonade that kills people” is genius marketing.
My mug filled with the lemonade that kills people has a lot of people asking questions already answered by the mug
Right? I didn't even know Panera had a caffeinated lemonade until it started killing people. Now I want.
i saw legal eagle's video, and then 2-3 posts about it here and i'm starting to get that insidious reinforcement. Starting to think about how long it's been since i had over-priced soup in an over-priced breadbowl.
Wild that companies will just sell food that straight up kills people
But libertarians said the market would regulate itself. People have stopped buying the deadly lemonade right?
Right?
I have actually read arguments made before the laws on food safety that unsafe food is good actually because the market trends towards replacing flour with sawdust because it's cheaper and poisoning everyone is good if the market said to
cigarette companies: you don't even get to eat it
I thought the lemonade was complimentary since it was a self serve station.
Worry not, friends, it s not like there's a pandemic raging uncontrolled that makes people more susceptible to heart failure!
Hmm, what's that? THERE'S A WHAT?!?!?!
I'm torn between "why are they putting caffeine in lemonade" and "I'll take 2 please"
Pink Sauce 
Oh I forgot about that one
but in all seriousness it would be fine if they just labeled this better, but it is advertised as much caffeine as coffee. but 390 mg for 30-oz is actually much less than coffee. sorry to be a downer, its very fun to say "the lemonade that kills people". they should also take away free refills and not let people serve themself.
The caffeine in coffee has a much lower bioavailability than in energy drinks like this though. Most of the caffeine is locked behind the crll walls in coffee and tea, and oir body has a lot if trouble accessing it. Energy drinks have pure caffeine added into them and it is much more readily available for our bodies to absorb.
To think of it another way, a typical joint with about a gram of marijuana has about 120-200mg of thc in it. Taking that much thc in an edible would absolutely blast you to the moon, but smoking just gets you regularly high.
ok intresting! that tracks but what is "pure caffeine"? because i saw it called green coffee extract, like what they have at starbucks. is this a marketing term for pure caffeine?
edit. yeah googling and im not sure its the same type of caffeine as in energy drinks. do you mean synthetic caffine? when you say pure caffeine? really trying to learn more. becaue just looking online it says that synthetic caffine is the one your body absorbs faster and this is not synthetic caffine. so the lemonade still may be in the clear lol.
Pure caffeine was pure wording on my part. "More refined" is what i should have said instead. Coffee and green tea extracts get mashed up and boiled, same as when we use them for regular coffee or tea, but then they will use a series of solvents to further break down the cell walls and further extract the caffeine.
It's more caffeine than you get from an equal volume of Red Bull. Dunno what coffee you're drinking.
This lemonade is the final ingredient to my Kahlua + 4loko based cocktail that I've been inventing.
I call it the Heart Palpatini.
It'll be drank by line cooks in 45°C kitchens everywhere. Which means it'll be consumed along with lines of cocaine in the walk in cool room.
If we start regulating uppers in drinks, I'll never get to taste the proper coke
It's wild to think some confederate fuckface invented Alcohol/Cocaine Soda in the 1800s because he wanted a nice relaxing beverage to drink outside in the Southern heat while weening himself off of morphine lol
The bigger question, in my view, is why should Americans rely on a law firm, and the eventual decisions of a judge and jury in Delaware to decide what will effectively be a national standard for caffeinated lemonade? The answer is that the United States’ regulatory bodies are far too feeble to sufficiently protect the public against hazardous products, and so they essentially outsource this task to consumers and the lawyers who represent them. In peer nations—like, for instance, the United Kingdom—the government imposes strict and consistent regulations on the front end: It requires warning labels on drinks with more than 150 mg of caffeine and bans the sale of these drinks to children under 16. In the U.S., by contrast, the FDA barely regulates caffeine: It does not require manufacturers to include caffeine on the ingredient list of many caffeinated beverages, let alone disclose the amount of caffeine on the label. Nor does the U.S. government bar any consumers from buying ultra-caffeinated products, mandate an explicit warning label, or monitor advertisements. https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/12/panera-charged-lemonade-that-kills-you-lawsuit-facts.html
having caffeine labels on products would blow my mind. i didn't even think about it until seeing this, but of course slightly-more-normal countries provide labels because it's a profoundly powerful drug. i have been steadily weaning myself down over the last decade--i used to be a complete freakshow--and it's not easy given how prevalent it is and how we have to look shit up online to know how much is in something. i would say i'm somewhere between 50-75 mg / day, with the occasional jump up to 150 mg which feels "intense". i can absolutely have days under 40 mg or even 0 mg and not get a headache or anything.... but i will really want to siesta in the afternoon lol. and now i really appreciate the perk of a cup of green tea or even black tea if i'm feeling daring.
one of these lemonades would fuck me up lmao.
Maybe if our economy didn’t normalize stimulants (as a function of maximum productivity output) this wouldn’t be a problem
this shit absolutely needs to be regulated, but i won't act like the yuzu citrus flavor wasn't delicious and didn't have me wired all day.
You can't stop me from eating a handful of Pepper X. I will die in dignity 
Wait, is this why I'm seeing lemon emojis everywhere?
"I can't believe the raging antisemitism of tankies"
"🍋 yourself"
Also be careful with some of these energy drinks out there people, a Celsius has an insane amount of caffiene, like three red bulls for an 8.4oz
I want regular unhealthy snacks but I keep getting offers/coupons that only apply to all these weird drinks with caffeine levels measured in kilo Sieverts and the taste is fizzy septic sludge.
When I heard the news, I went to Panera for the first time in ten years to try the poison. I got the strawberry, I think. It was tasty lol.