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TLDR:
Windows 11 v24H2 and beyond will have Recall installed on every system. Attempting to remove Recall will now break some file explorer features such as tabs.

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[–] [email protected] 72 points 3 weeks ago (15 children)

I guess I just have to keep Windows 10 with a custom group policy that disables all updates either forever or until I learn Linux.

Linux gaming is getting to the point that I could consider the switch, but I hear scary stories about Nvidia drivers.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I had no issues with Nvidia. PopOs has support for Nvidia on install....I used it and it worked

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago

I had minor issues when I first installed, but I worked them all out.

Install and give it a week. Seven days. If you can't get it all figured out by then head back to windows. If you can figure it out, you probably won't go back.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I have a GTX 1080 and I've been gaming on Linux for over a year now. No issues. Only thing that you cant do is some of the new generation window managers (wayland) but even that is working well in the nvidia drivers that arent on stable yet. In any case, the previous generations window managers work great and if wayland doesnt work properly for you, you can just as easily do without it.

Point is, its worth it to make the switch. I set my partner up with Linux Mint when their machine didnt qualify for windows updates anymore and they've had no problems, games and all. And they would never touch the command line.

Would recommend

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

Yep same with PoPOS. Great little distro. It's been my daily driver for years now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

hey GTX1080 user! Have you been able to get any games running with RTX? I picked mine up used a while back, and I kinda stopped PC gaming ages ago, but it'd be nice to use these features if I could. I haven't been able to get RTX Portal or RTX Quake 2 to work right via Steam, so i figured the card/drivers just can't handle it and I should just play vanilla DOOM instead.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

My understanding is the 1080 predated the RTX stuff by a generation, even when I was on Windows I don't think the Nvidia drivers for the 1080 supported RTX well, if at all

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

Correct.

I still have a 1080Ti in one machine and it definitely does not support RTX of any stripe, on any OS.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 weeks ago

Nvidia drivers are mostly OK now.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

EndeavourOS (Arch-based) works fantastic with latest Nvidia drivers, for me

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Including for sleep and hibernate? Those are what I've run into issues with with EndeavourOS and Garuda with my NVIDIA gpu

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

Hmm I never use hibernate but sleep seems fine for me

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago

I use Garuda and NVIDIA gives me no troubles

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

If you have a new NVIDIA GPU (Turing+), you can use the new open kernel module. If you have older ones, I guess you're stuck with the proprietary or bad unofficial open source ones. The open kernel module works good and gets the job done. No need to be afraid of it. I get over 1000fps in (optimized) minecraft with shaders. I couldn't do that in windows.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Which GPU do you have? I'm looking for an upgrade and those framerates make me drool.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4050 Mobile

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago

Running EndeavourOS with Nvidia on Wayland for some months now. Prior to 555 it was a bit janky at times. Since then, and now with 560, the only issue I'm having is related to sleep/hibernation mode. Game wise everything runs fine.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

It may have been the case in the past but Ive used both the GTX 680 and RTX 3060 on Fedora with no issue whatsoever. I have veen using the nvidia peoprietary drivers and they work well.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

You can run Windows in virtual machine, you know.

It would be the best if you could have dedicated GPU for it, to be able to run games with nearly 100% performance.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

Worst thing is you may have to learn downgrade commands on PopOS if a game breaks with driver updates.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I've had no significant driver issues with Mint and a 2080, myself. I switched back in February, and most things -- games included -- just work. The few that didn't, were easy to fix with some searching on stackoverflow and reddit (about the only thing that site is good for now).

if an idiot like me can do it, so can you.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

As others have already pointed out Nvidia drivers aren't that bad. The only game I've had issues with is Star Wars Outlaws, but I think that has more to do with the game itself than Nvidia drivers (It's not exactly a stable experience on Windows either).

The only big thing holding Linux gaming back is anti-cheat, but that's mostly because AAA developers don't want to allow anti-cheat on Linux. It's worth checking out if your favorite online game can be played on Linux.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I guess it depends on what you do, but as an awerage user - not really much to learn in terms of Linux. No special knowledge needed to use it like a normal person. I had to reformat some drives so Linux can use them and learning about Heroic games launcher, Lutris and Bottles to run non-steam games and windows software amd learn about compatibility layer built into Steam.

Otherwise it just works. Using Linux Mint. Didn't boot to Windows pretty much since I installed it - there was no need.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

I moved to Linux Mint after a brief stint with Manjaro. I don't prefer the Cinnamon interface, but gaming has been perfect. Bottles, allows me to install GOG Galaxy and the games run. I even modded Skyrim using a manual process and a ton of animation mods, that worked alright a lot of times with Vortex ( for the most part).

Linux can handle NTFS partitions, and just take a small line to fix if they are open during a crash. Flatpak software is really stable to install and keep installed.

I haven't yet had a problem with steam games.

The only problem I have is with streaming services forcing Windows usage, so I got a VPN and raised the Jolly Roger to watch streaming services.

My 3080 plays games fine, and the few times it got a little slow I rebooted and it all worked fine. Discord calls and Twitch work fine. I even take my VA Online appointments with no issues.

It's closer to going back to Windows 7 or XP, with a decent free office software.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

Nvidia drivers are the reason I end up going back to windows every time. Once installed they work fine, but installation and updating were always fraught with issues, and would inevitably break and piss me off to the point I gave up and went back to windows.

Haven't tried since I got my amd card, but maybe Nvidia Linux drivers are less terrible than they had been.