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[–] [email protected] 25 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Still a long way to go to be considered a "free speech absolutist".

He has failed since the start on that front.

[–] [email protected] 66 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I'll start considering his claim of being a "free speech absolutist" when he unbans the account that uses publicly available information to track his private plane.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 11 months ago (2 children)

FYI, he's still tracking Elon's jet, on Mastodon now. @elonjet

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

His aircraft took a 9 minute flight. Elon was not necessarily on board. Sometimes aircraft are moved for logistical reasons.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Funny, I never hear of large commercial airliners making 9-minute flights for logistical reasons? What logistical reason would that be beyond 'Elon doesn't want to travel all the way to that airport when there's a closer one?'

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Aircraft are moved all the time for logistical reasons. These are known as "empty leg flights".

For example if you will fly from Chicago to NY, but your charter plane will arrive and disembark in Milwaukee. After disembarking, it will take a short flight empty between the two airports.

And all of this is transparent to the passengers. It's not like the charter company says, "Hey if you meet the plane in Milwaukee you can save us the fuel". Kind of like when you call a taxi, the dispatcher doesn't tell you how far the taxi had to drive empty in order to pick you up.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yes, from Chicago to New York, fine. This is from one airport in the San Francisco area to another airport in the San Francisco area. Give me the logistical reason for that.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Elon arrives at one airport. Someone else wants to use his jet, departing from a different airport (Elon isn't the only person who uses that aircraft). The plane is moved empty from one airport to the other.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Why can't they just use CalTrans to get to the original airport since it's only five stops between the two and far less polluting?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

The 5 stops on Caltrain between SFO and SJC is disingenuous. Assuming starting at SFO, you need to take BART to Millbrae and then Caltrain to Santa Clara and then a bus to SJC. The whole thing would take like 1hr45min if you timed a baby bullet express train perfectly. But yeah if drove or hired a driver you could get there in 40 min depending on traffic.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Because the passengers don't know where the aircraft is.

So for instance Musk might say "Gwynne Shotwell needs to fly to Austin on my jet on July 1." Shotwell says "I'll fly out of XXX airport". Then in June, Musk flies to YYY airport.

They aren't going to call Shotwell before her flight and say, "Turns out the plane just landed very close to you. Do you mind flying out of YYY instead to save us some fuel?" They simply reposition the plane.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So in other words, it's to be convenient to Elon and his cohorts. Which is what I said earlier. I'm not sure why you think that's justifiable.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It's justified because it's how professional pilots are expected to operate, and there is no reason to make an exception in this case.

For that matter, it's also how car-sharing is expected to operate. Imagine you took an Uber to your hotel, and the driver said "Hey, my next fare is two blocks from your hotel. So how about I drop you off there, it's just a five minute walk the rest of the way. Plus, it would save me from driving with no passenger for a few minutes, thus wasting fuel." I think the vast majority of us would say, "No thanks, drive me all the way to my hotel".

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

OMG please let him overestimate his skill as a pilot

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I doubt he pilots them himself.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Yeah that era of billionaire is unfortunately over. Now they just think they’re engineers for some reason.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Thanks! I hadn't realized

[–] [email protected] 36 points 11 months ago

And stops suing journalists for doing journalism.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Lmao and the "critical" customer still slobbered all over Elon's cock afterwards.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don’t think anyone serious or sensible believed that Elton was out to achieve that.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

Elton

Well, he is the Rocket Man

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

Read this as “free speech abolitionist”