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[–] [email protected] 85 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Can't wait until all these losers finally realize trump is done and crawl back into the shadows

[–] [email protected] 68 points 2 months ago (4 children)

When they realize he is done, there will be a battle for the position of his successor, so don't put your hopes up.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 months ago (2 children)

They've spent 80 years looking for a successor to Hitler and never found one.

Sometimes building a cult around an individual doesn't work out long term for a movement.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago

I don't know, I think they got pretty close. Trump standing out there in front saying you'll never have to vote again... Even now it's not a sure thing and he's not going to make it in.

Hitler wasn't this magical evil mastermind that just appeared in a vacuum. The fascists were huge party of people that helped him rise to power.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

They looked for one, spent 4 years, didn't find one. He lost back to back popular votes. If they thought they had someone more popular, they would have used them.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Ya, there's no successor.
Trump is a one-off, and his popularity and spellbinding cult effect on 50% of Americans will baffle intelligentsia for millennia.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Remember when it seemed like DeSantis might be the successor? His charisma deficit plus his attacking the Weird 34 Idol were just two of Gone Ron's problems. Sleepy DonOLD is a special kind of narcissistic weirdness that's nigh impossible to duplicate.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

I saw some premature Desantis president yard signs years ago. That was a glimpse into a different but also bleak future.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

As others said, Hitler wasn't a mastermind. There was a large percent of the population behind him. Another Trump is a maximum of 20 years away. Probably sooner because almost half the US population is behind Trump despite being anti military, a felon, and a rapist. The next demogogue is unlikely to be as overtly criminal.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

I still think some investigative journalists should look into the NLP connection when it comes to donOLD.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (3 children)

There was already a battle for the position of his successor during the GOP primaries this year. Everyone lost.

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 2 months ago

As an imminent Harris/Walz voter, this comment shocks me. It’s 2016 all over again and I’m realizing people are living in a Hillary bubble. Acting like this shit is in the bag. It is SO NOT IN THE BAG. Not even fucking close.

Now I’m not going to spam a bunch of voting links and opine on how it’s up to you to make a difference and make it so. M

This bubble is serious and I’m very afraid of what kind of reality is going to be crashing around all around this country and the world when an also shocked Trump sees the results roll in election night and he is now the new King of America (in his eyes). “They really do love me. God has chosen me. I am supreme.”

You fools. You don’t realize that this is so within the margin of error it’s a totally real and near possibility.

Trump is not done until it’s done.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

trump is done

That's really not the case.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

How can you possibly think trump is done? Loved 2016 day after election feeling or ..?

[–] [email protected] 80 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

Over the years, Phony Stark went from some sort of [anti]hero to straight up supervillain. I guess kinda like Robert Downey Jr. from Iron Man to Dr. Doom.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 months ago (4 children)

What do you get when you cross Kim Jong Un and Jean-Baptiste Emanuel Zorg?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Is this going to be the next photo he permanently deletes from the internet forever? I still can't believe this one is gone

poof

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Has he gotten this one removed yet?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

It's only a matter of time

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

Jong-Baptist Unmanuel Xlon

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

They were wondering if it'd be possible to fire 500,000. Maybe from one of the smaller companies where no one would notice, like one of the cab companies?

Zorg: fire 1,000 000.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

His hair looks like Reverend Putty’s

[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

Maybe they dug too deep for those hairplugs and damaged the empathy part of his brain?

^^^just ^^^kidding ^^^he ^^^was ^^^a ^^^asshole ^^^from ^^^the ^^^start

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago

Nah, he decided thah hes dedicated Elon-Marketing team was not useful, he could do it better himself! So he fired them sometimes IIRC in 2018.

The rest is history :-)

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Do you mean empathy? Apathy is more like indifference

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

Eh, whatever… I feel that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Fixed it. Was early in the morning before coffee

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Is this supposed to be formatted using a larger font or something? I'm on Apollo and I just see a bunch of carrets.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

This is very insulting, Dr. Doom is an intelligent and effective ruler, please do not draw such an unfair comparison between him and Musk. Fictional character feelings matter.

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I won't forget that Musk played a front-facing role in trying to put an insurrectionist criminal back in power to finish the job of destroying American democracy.

NASA should be very careful about how they deal with SpaceX since Musk also frequently spreads Russian propaganda.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I know of several people interested in EV that either chose some other maker for EV, or have not yet opted into buying at all, entirely because of Elon.

And that's before the endorsement of donOLD.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm the same way. I'm just glad I couldn't afford a Tesla when I thought Elon was going to do good things for the world. Now that I can afford one, I'll wait till someone else makes one that competes with it or he's no longer a part of the company.

In the meantime, I've been looking in to converting something old and neat to an EV to put around town in. The conversions aren't the greatest but you can do 200hp/tq and 100mile range for less than a crappy used car.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

He sure has been a big disappointment. I admired and even respected him and what he was driving, but once his PR team decided to not exist any longer, I guess, his behavior was instantly and incredibly immature and off-putting.

I want to appreciate everything he has had his booger-hooks in for what they are (apart from Twitter), but I just can't imagine supporting them until he simply isn't in the picture at all.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

You know how sometimes a movie is so terrible that it becomes good? I feel that way about Musk. He is so unbelievably stupid that it is honestly sort of amazing. He has all but destroyed Twitter and now he has dealt mortal strike to Tesla by opening endorsing fascists who hate electric cars. Simply amazing.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

Yep model Y ticks my boxes but I'm probably not gonna change cars or go for one last petrol/hybrid because I feel really dirty at the idea of getting one...

[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 months ago (4 children)

His backing signaled that Trump would have all the cash and social media firepower he needed to regain the White House, and it added to a perception that Trump had won over a big share of America’s tech industry and entrepreneur class.

I'm in tech and I don't like the orange bad. Billionaires might, but not the rest of us.

Musk’s endorsement was arguably the most high profile and coveted of this election cycle, given his unprecedented mix of wealth, celebrity and media reach.

Folks, can we please agree to use the Oxford Comma? Its absence makes me cry.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

Libertarian tech bro here. Fuck Trump. He's offering us his permission to use permissionless money, and too many of us are cowards who beg for it anyways.

The battle for financial freedom is already over. All that's left are social freedoms like abortion and immigration.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

Indeed. I loathe the term "tech bros" because it makes zero distinction between douchebags born into money and that fell backwards into obscene amounts of even more money vs, people like myself who have been into tech from very formative ages, and mostly were ostracized and marginalized for it to a great deal already, until only fairly recently when, for a few short periods of time, certain individuals get lionized and some kind of respect, but usually only if they are involved with either making obscene amounts of money, or by being central to that effort of making someone else a lot of money.

In a strict sense, I'm a "tech bro" (being male and into tech) but that doesn't mean I want to be lumped in with dickhead freaks like Elon.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago

I think "Tech bro" is an attitude you can have, without even Knowing anything about actual tech. (Think start up bros who want to get into AI)

Having common sense is the opposite of that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Same. I got into it for a love of tech. It was cool to work at a company that was doing something exciting. Then people started getting into it not for love of tech but because they found out it could provide high salaries. Same people who become lawyers and doctors only because money. It's not fun anymore.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

It seems to me the term "tech bro" has always had emphasis on the "bro", as in the type of toxic masculinity that made Gamergate blow up. I have always preferred the term "geek" for myself; now doubly so for its gender neutrality.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

I could describe myself in similar terms as you described yourself; basically a nerd who can also program my way out of a paper bag (and maybe a leather one).

To me the term "tech bro" always meant someone between Elon Musk and some low middle class douche-bag who feels smart and adult about "accepting" that AI needs to be everywhere and we also need to pay for SW every month. Someone person who would say "bUt iT's fOrD mOdEl T" and has some Alexa non-sense in their house.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Folks, can we please agree to use the Oxford Comma? Its absence makes me cry.

Its absence makes Rachael Ray seem psycho:

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 months ago

Buying a Tesla is a vote for Big Orange.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago

IT DIDN'T BACKFIRE! THAT'S A LIE!

Elon musk pointed a gun at his own head and fired, that's not backfiring.
But some people may be surprised that somehow it wasn't a good idea.
But I'm sure Trump is left there laughing. Maybe he is going down, but at least he can take some people with him.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

does it? they kinda share the same set of fans

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Does no one else see that Musk is becoming a cliche´ bond villian?

He owns a company that facilitates worldwide communications thru satellites in Earth's controlled by him.

He owns a company that facilitates the movement of people where each one of his vehicles report back to him everything in and around it and exactly where it is in the world.

He owns a company that a good number of people worldwide use to communicate with each other the most mundane to confidential things. He rules it with an iron fist allowing comminications of those who wish to subjugate others and commit violence to flow free while censoring or banning those who wish for peace and understanding.

He owns a company focused on space travel, and whose goal is to colonize another planet but whose technology can also be sold to anyone with enough money to use as an airborne delivery system for weapons.

And let's be honest. Musk doesn't want to just colonize another planet, he wants to control it by controlling the means of getting there, how people travel, communicate, and live once there. Who is going to tell the King of Mars no? It's not like the gov'ts that stopped their own programs to give him money to do it instead can do anything.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Does no one else see that Musk is becoming a cliche´ bond villian?

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Does no one else see that Musk is becoming parody of a cliche´ bond villian?

FTFY

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