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[–] [email protected] 69 points 1 month ago (3 children)

TL;DR

  • YouTube is increasing subscription prices outside the US, affecting both individual and family plans.

  • The price hike differs per region, with some seeing changes between 30% to 50%.

  • If you're impacted, it makes YouTube Premium more expensive than Spotify Premium and Apple Music.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If you’re impacted, it makes YouTube Premium more expensive than Spotify Premium and Apple Music.

I find this particular comparison interesting to bring up. A Youtube Premium subscription also includes a Youtube Music sub (at least in the US, not sure about everywhere else). Which theoretically makes those subscriptions unnecessary as well (ignoring differences in catalog, device availability, etc. of course).

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Yeah but YouTube music is utter trash and we don't use it anyways. We're just gonna cancel the subscription tbh with you, paying $25 a month was already not worth it so we're just gonna jump ship now contrary to how we dealt with Netflix and their incremental increases. Getting tired of service providers overcharging everyone and constantly raising prices, not because they added more value but because you got used to paying for it so you'll probably keep paying.

It's time for a new YouTube, y'all.

[–] Marin_Rider 6 points 1 month ago

agree. it's got probably the best content range, but the most God awful UI of all the streaming services I've tried

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Peertube. It definitely needs more content, but as far as I can tell, it is one of the few viable alternatives. Primarily because one single server does not have to stream the video to every client because every client who watches the video also by default I think acts as a seeder to new people watching the video

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

It's more than 50%. In Sweden it goes from 179 SEK to 279 SEK for family - that's almost 56% which is an insane price hike. But hey I'm glad it helps YouTube "improve the service". I would be out if I didn't want my family to be able to watch without ads on several non Android devices and a smart TV..

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[–] Salvo 49 points 1 month ago (6 children)

This is ridiculous.

  • their algorithms are crap and keep ramming right-wing bullshit down my throat
  • they keep trying to get me to play YouTube games
  • they list YouTube Shorts multiple times in the Home Screen and most of the time it is just over-sexualised jailbait.
  • using anonymous Google to find a video on YouTube is more effective than using YouTube search

I am seriously thinking of getting an Apple Vision Pro just so I can use Juno and bypass all the bullshit.

Time I planned an exit strategy.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I'm gonna be honest dude. The "shorts is just over-sexualised jailbait" is a you issue, and more of a self report on the shit you watch, or you being hyperbolic. I often watch shorts and have not once ever seen anything remotely as you describe.

You get served kid videos because you watch them, which is sick of you. It's wild you'd admit that when common knowledge is algos show you content you seem to like.

[–] Salvo 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Jailbait is probably the wrong word, but every single short has a scantily clad young lady. It isn’t the Algorithm because all I watch are Machining Videos, DIY and Restoration Videos and the occasional Science and Natural History video.

The most risqué channel subscribe to is VanWives.

Speaking of which, the Algorithm never serves anything that I subscribe to. I would better off going straight to my Subscriptions page.

I will maintain my observation that the Algorithm is shit.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Never see scantily clad young ladies in my shorts.

[–] Salvo 3 points 1 month ago

Maybe ThE aLgOrThMs insistence to put scantily clad women in everyone’s Shorts is just a really bad attempt at a bad Dad Joke.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't get allot of that, possibly because I have History turned off and refuse to turn it back on.

  • I vastly avoid Right Wing content, and most of what I do encounter is like old school Republican, reeeally old school Republican. They are as pissed at the Right Wing's take over by the Alt-Right(and worse)
  • YouTube has games?!?
  • The shorts content I get is mostly computer content and news, some branding because I have entered contests, and that is it. I have seen 1 short that was even approaching jailbaity and it was an add for a coming of age movie.
  • It has been literally over a year since I used Google to find a video (well except for a tech support video I keep loosing the link to that I use to help people with installing Windows 11 Locally) and I have been using Startpage which anonymizes Google results.

If you disabling your Ad ID and turning off your history and you still get all that BS I would be looking for an Exit Strategy to.

[–] Salvo 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I usually get bombarded with Right-Wing content after I watch Juice Media videos. Also, if a watch a feminist video, it is usually followed by recommendations of “AnTi-WoKe” mansplaining videos. it is if they want to show “Both Sides” after I watch something about maintaining democracy and contributing to society in a positive way.

The YouTube Games are just another banner of unwanted “content” like Shorts.

The T&A shorts are usually of young women in jeggings and crop-tops doing risqué actions; if your mouse passes over the Shorts for a millisecond , YouTube autoplays them and registers as a view, creating a negative feedback loop of more and more scantily clad young women doing mundane things in a risqué way.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Just use NewPipe (alternative YouTube front-end with more features and no ads)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

they list YouTube Shorts multiple times in the Home Screen and most of the time it is just over-sexualised jailbait.

Commenters are quick to jump to dunk on you but they don't realize that YouTube runs "studies" or just pump shit up if creator pays. Behavior here is indicative of a larger social issue with bootlickers.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

The shorts thing is on you buddy. Never had any of that and it's 100% of shorts by people I watch, or of people that are similar to who I watch.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

If you've followed the YT news you'd know this isn't true. They literally advertise sex to kids in the ads. I watch a bunch of travel people, animal and history programs, and woodworking/handyman stuff. Never once clicked on a short cause they don't cast. Every day they put up some Korean cheerleader or other bullshit I don't give 2 shits about. YT algorithm is manipulative as fuck and sucks now. I get most of my vid referrals from outside sites.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The shorts algorithm is really weird I find. The ones it advertises are usually essentially thinly veiled smut (whereas most videos I watch are tech/science/aviation stuff). But (and I think this is important), if I start watching shorts, most of them are normal type shorts in line with what I'd want to watch. So it feels like it puts some stuff up it thinks will grab your attention but doesn't push it once you're watching. I'm sure there's a good reason for it. But, just comes across as weird to me.

I don't get right wing stuff in shorts, but I do sometimes get it in the main videos suggested. How I think it happens is, I watch some videos about computer games, or perhaps a video on a games/science topic which is made by a channel that either also has right wing content OR their viewers also watch such stuff. So it figures, well if they viewed video A, and viewers that watched video A also watched video B, let's push video B to that user too. The algorithm doesn't really understand left or right wing, just pattern matching from views and other metrics.

I find if you start telling youtube that you don't want to see them, they will go away, at least for a while.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If you click on something the algorithm goes hard on that content from then on. I clicked on a skateboarding short (which I usually have no interest in) and now half my feed is skateboarding, constantly.

One misclick, one hate watch, is all it takes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Also, mouseover long enough and it counts as a watch. There's very little space between videos that doesn't count as a mouseover too.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah, you sometimes need to curate your videos with the "dont recommend channel" or "dont like the video" or whatever its name is. It tends to happen when I go down a rabbithole - last time I got recommended stupid supra memes from some Turkish guy and watched a couple in a day. Next day, my entire feed is "IS THAT A SUPRA?!!" memes. A couple of clicks later and it's back to what it was

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So what you're saying is you trust YouTube to do it right? With shorts? I got bombarded with bullshit in shorts, the 50 times they got it in front of my eyes somehow, I never watched any of that in my normal yt rounds. That algorithm is made to brainwash, not to serve you what you want.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I don't need to "trust" anything other than my eyes. I watch shorts often and never get anything close to "brainwashing" content and it is always tailored to what I watch. I don't know what your goal is with this comment - are you trying to convince me that that isn't the case?

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 month ago (3 children)

There was 0% chance of me paying for it before, and it’s still 0 now. A service is supposed to offer you goods in return for the money. With this service, all i get for paying them increasing obnoxious amounts is a big fuck you.

Google really just forgot that without the people on their platform, YT is worthless

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'd pay for youtube if I wouldn't also be exposed to tracking, however I much prefer supporting creators directly. IMO the platform should be paid-only and have a revenue-share system akin to Nebula. Fuck ads.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

I wish more creators were on nebula. I would like to support them on patron but $5+ a month per channel adds up really quickly.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Fortunately their US subscription is so high already they couldn't possibly raise it any time soon.

...right?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

YouTube Headquarters: ^^^^Coming ^^^^Soon

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The more you tighten your grip, Google, the more users will slip through your fingers.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

They are shooting themselves in the foot

Just make a usable website that isn't so terribly designed

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago
[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Piracy needs to (and probably will)intervene.

Not until the large channels lose views because people are torrenting the content will anything change.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't think there is such a thing as YouTube doesn't use any DRM. All videos are publicly available on a public facing service available to all

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

the EULA for YouTube says they own all videos uploaded to their site. watching through something like Piped is a soft (and important) form of piracy

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

You aren't agreeing the the EULA

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

They've figured out that it's impossible to have children today without paying for Youtube Premium Family ...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (8 children)

They must make a fortune on premium users compared to a regular user, I don't believe their adverts pays them enough to get them over 10$ a month for a single person...

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

I find it funny that the "play" icon in the articles thumbnail picture (up-left corner of the red trapezoid) looks quite similar to newpipe's logo.

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