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An Israeli settler leader has told a conference on Israel's frontier with Gaza that Palestinians will "disappear" from the territory and said that thousands of people stand ready to move there "from north to south”.

Addressing a conference on Monday also attended by Israeli Security Minister Itamar Ben Gvir and Knesset members from Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s Likud party, Daniella Weiss called for Palestinians living in Gaza to be relocated to other countries.

“We came here with one clear purpose: the purpose is to settle the entire Gaza Strip, not just part of it, not just a few settlements, the entire Gaza Strip from north to south,” said Weiss.

Weiss, the leader of Nachala, an orthodox settler movement which organised the conference, said there were six settler groups and more than 700 families looking to settle in Gaza, where more than 42,600 Palestinians have been killed since Israel launched its war against Hamas in October last year following the Hamas-led attacks in southern Israel.

Weiss’s comments were echoed by Ben Gvir, who later told the crowd: “We are the owners of the land”. Ben Gvir also called for Palestinians in Gaza to “voluntarily” transfer to other countries.

Monday’s conference, which was billed by organisers as “a celebration for the preparation of settling Gaza", took place near Reim kibbutz, with the sound of Israel’s ongoing bombardment of northern Gaza audible in the background and with smoke rising over the horizon a few kilometres to the west.

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[–] [email protected] 87 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

This woman is evil. I'd like to "resettle" her to prison.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You're much kinder than I.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, how about hell.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago

I think she should be settled into a hole in the ground.

[–] [email protected] 79 points 2 weeks ago (12 children)

This needs to be marked as another case in point for all the people who want to argue it's not a genocide.

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 2 weeks ago

Tally Gotliv, a Likud MP, told MEE: “We need to occupy the complete land of Israel. There are no innocent people in Gaza. Everybody who has refused to leave the north is a collaborator.”

Monday's event took place against the backdrop of an escalating military assault on northern Gaza where hundreds of thousands of Palestinians remained trapped and subjected to daily air strikes.

The assault came amid reports from Israel that the military has started to implement a strategy known as “the Generals’ Plan” which called for the ethnic cleansing of the north of the territory, and condemnation by aid groups who warned last week that northern Gaza is being “erased”.

This is their plan. They're doing it right now. I can't imagine how folks will deny this, I guess they'll move onto justify.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 2 weeks ago

Sounds like bog standard language of ethnic cleansing to me. Still amazed how many people refuse to call a Nazi a Nazi.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I hope this cunt and all her friends are dragged through Nuremberg 2.0. "Never again", right guys?

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

Daniella Weiss called for Palestinians living in Gaza to be relocated to other countries.

Relocated to where? Israel? What she means is to kill them all, right?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago

Remember in the Bible how Jews had no home for the entirety of history and then they went to Canaan and threw the Canaanites out?

That.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago

Seems like she doesn’t care if they are killed or not. They just can’t occupy Gaza.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Presumably they don't especially care, as long as they're able to take their land

But I expect a lot of the refugees will go to Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Saudi Arabia and Turkiye, probably a handful to Egypt but from what I've heard the Egyptian border is pretty much closed

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

None of those countries want to take refugees tho

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Are more and more people of orthodox faith turning against the humanitarian values that religion supposedly have?

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

There have always been some Orthodox Jewish people that have objected to Zionism since it's inception. I'm not sure if they have grown or not recently, but it's important to recognize that Zionism is not and doesn't represent Judaism

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Absolutely. And it’s also important to remember that the inhabitants of a group are all individuals with different traits and characteristics. One example could be that there are clearly a lot of batshit crazy republicans, but I’m sure there are republicans who are decent people too. Arnie seems to have mellowed into a pretty ok bloke.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Adi Callai touches on the concept of a counter-identity, one available to anyone who participates in the struggle of resistance. It's about 10 min into the last section, Lessons from the Resistance, in his latest video The Gaza Ghetto Uprising. All of his videos are really well sourced and presented concisely, highly recommended.

While Anti-zionists may be a small minority in Israel right now, it can certainly still grow. I think the idea about how anyone who participates in anti-colonialst resistance against the State can belong to that counter-identity is powerful. It can extend to not only Israelis but anyone globally who joins the resistance by whatever means they can. It comes from the works of Basil Al-Araj who drew from the works of Franz Fanon.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I wonder if any of this will at all backfire for Israel in the near future, especially considering they have the complete backing of the USA.

Serbia's genocide backfired when the Bosnians suddenly started covertly receiving ATGMs via Pakistan which changed the tide of the war.

I just don't see that happening here when Gaza doesn't even have a friendly/neutral neighbor to the south, let alone a country willing to actually help. Egypt doesn't even want to take refugees. Seems like Israel is just gonna steamroll ahead and we won't even learn the full extent of the genocide for several decades :/

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 weeks ago

The same way jews disappeared from Warsaw.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Once again, all of these colonizers need to be sent back to their countries of origin and the state of Israel dismantled. They are geonicidal colonialist and there isn't an innocent among them.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Was a Palestinian Jew and would probably be persecuted, tortured and killed by the modern state of Israel.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago (14 children)

The Jews in Jerusalem sent him to be crucified, so maybe not all that much has changed.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

Sadly, this tracks

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (9 children)

I never really understood what these "Settlers" are exactly doing. Do they just go to a House and be like "Yeah that's mine now, GTFO!" or are they building Homes on somebody else's Property? Or are they tearing down houses and building new ones for themselves? I never really understood how you can settle in an already developed place. Or all of the above?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I find it helps if you just call them "invaders".

I think you could only call yourself a settler if you went somewhere uninhabitable and made it livable. Antarctica maybe. I don't think "arable farmland right next door with brown people living on it" counts for much.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

When you have the Israeli military supporting you, you can do a lot of things.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They settle right next to existing Palestinian towns. Then surround them by expanding. Create better infrastructure. Then exclude the Palestinians and ensure they are treat as other or not equal.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

That's the very best of situations. Ignoring that a majority are armed takeovers of occupied buildings.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

From B'TSelem, an Israeli Human Rights Organization that has covered this since the 1960's:

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The state allows settlers to use land violently taken from Palestinians. Dozens of outposts and “farms” – settlements for all intents and purposes, which were built without authorization by the government and without plans that enable construction in them – receive support from Israeli authorities and remain standing. Israel has ordered the military to defend the outposts or paid for their security, as well as paved roads and laid down water and electricity infrastructure for most of them. It has provided support through various government ministries, the Settlement Division of the World Zionist Organization and regional councils in the West Bank. It has also subsidized financial endeavors in the outposts, including agricultural facilities, provided support for new farmers and for shepherding, allocated water and legally defended outposts in petitions for their removal.

The violent acts include beating, throwing stones, issuing threats, torching fields, destroying trees and crops, stealing crops, damaging homes and cars, blocking roads, using live fire, and, in rare cases, killing. Settlers from so-called farms violently chase Palestinian farmers and shepherds away from their fields, and from pastureland and water sources they have used for generations. They initiate violent altercations on a daily basis and use drones to scare flocks belonging to Palestinians into scattering.

https://www.btselem.org/settler_violence

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

First they blow up the place, flatten it, and then build their vacation homes on top of the people they killed.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago

Still can't be called a genocide, huh?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

And in my next trick I'll teleport Palestinians to their early grave

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

That's the plan. Look at the borders of Palestine over time. What Israel does speaks louder than what they say they are doing

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