There is no blockade of Cuba. It's an embargo. There are no military ships blowing up anyone trying to trade with Cuba.
this post was submitted on 30 Oct 2024
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Surprised you're not being downvoted for calling out this disinformation, usually it's all the rage on Lemmy
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Every year the resolution is proposed and the whole world, through the vote of the absolute majority of the member countries of the United Nations General Assembly, has condemned the imperialist attitude of the United States towards Cuba.
And just like every year, the vote will do nothing.
it'll add up to a hell of a lot of justified reparations when the US backs down.
US backs down
Does the US back down? We definitely double down
yeah, The US backs down.
they backed down in Vietnam, they backed down in iran, somalia, they backed down investigating the Saudi Arabian terrorists in 9/11(which is almost all of them), and the list goes on.
the US is not often gracious about backing down or wise enough to back down prudently, but they do back down.
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Blockading Cuba has never made sense. If communism is an inferior failed system that can't compete with the freedom of Capitalism (cue heavenly sunbeams and angel choirs) why not leave Cuba alone and let nature take its course?
Noted socialist (/s) Hillary Clinton advocated for that very thing.
The real reason behind the embargo at this point is that it makes a small but important voting bloc of Cuban expats in Florida happy.
That's really it. The start and end of why the embargo is even still there. It hurts both Cuba and (to a lesser extent) the United States. It benefits nobody, but there's some loudmouth Cuban expats who want you to believe Batista didn't have it coming.
Yep - it's one of the reasons Miami sees so much Trump support.
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This is why you get conspiracy theories that it was Cuba that assassinated President Kennedy: how else can we justify such extended sanctions when all the participants are long gone
Why is it normalized that one country can block/embargo/complicate/whatever-you-want-to-call-it another country to the point of severely affecting the lives of millions of people .... for what? because one country disagrees with the politics of another country?
If countries were able to do that, there would be no trade anywhere in the world.
Yet it's been completely normalized for the past six decades between the US and Cuba.
Because the international order is based on economic and military might, not any sort of higher ideal or codified rules.
So jungle rules then ..... ooga booga ... just with better vocabulary.
Well... Yeah. Who do you think would enforce any "rules"? And how would they?
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Countries have complicated trade for centuries. Free trade is a modern exception, not the historical rule.
And in principle, countries have as much right to restrict trade with Cuba as they do with Russia and Israel. It's the same principle that allows people to call for boycotts of Amazon and Starbucks. All of these things can affect the lives of millions, in an effort to bring about political change.
Ah, well...
The US also has about 750 military bases (not including black sites) scattered across 80 countries around the world
Some of those have been decommissioned. I know for sure the first one in the second column has, as I was stationed in that one.
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There is more countries with CVs than i thought. Also Brazil and Thailand? I wasn't aware they had any sizeable navy to begin with.
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Why shouldn't a country be able to decide not to trade with another country?
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It isn't that it's normalized. It is simply that no one can do anything about it. So, they voice their disagreement.
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I can't believe they're still trying to "contain the communism" of Cuba
Legalize the import of Cuban cigars, and I will personally bring Cuba back into an age of prosperity.
You can bring them back in your luggage - limit is maybe 100 cigars or $1000 worth. Something like that.
I'm 99% certain Trump administration put the kibosh on that. At least that was what I was told when I traveled out of country in 2023, and wanted to see if I could bring some back.
In 2016, the Obama administration eased some restrictions, allowing U.S. travelers to bring Cuban cigars into the country for personal use. However, this was short-lived. In 2020, the Trump administration re-imposed strict regulations, re-banning Cuban cigars—whether bought in Cuba or through third countries. Current Regulations:
As of now, it is illegal to import Cuban cigars into the U.S. This includes bringing cigars bought in other countries that originated from Cuba. Any attempt to bring Cuban cigars into the U.S. can result in serious legal consequences, including confiscation and potential fines.
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Why won't the rest of the world just ignore the blockade together?
When I was a kid, sweden did (IDK if they still do) so we had Cuba Cola there :-)
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is this that kind of vote the us can always overturn for some reason?
There are two tiers of UN. There’s the “I’m not a colonizer that’s willing to nuke people” tier, where the strongest outcome is “sternly worded email”; and then there’s the UN Permanent Security Council tier where you get an absolute veto power that cannot be questioned. The wiki is a very educating read
Edit: please tell me what part I am incorrect about if you disagree so hard that you downvote me out of the discussion.
Isn't it just the permanent members of the UNSC with veto power?
Correct, I could have been more specific.
We were in Cuba one year when they had the vote. I had never heard of it, but it was all over the news there so i thought it actually meant something.
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