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[–] [email protected] 278 points 1 year ago (7 children)

No they don't. What a rubbish clickbait article.

All they say is that there's a (niche) trend of a few people using feature phones with expected combined sales of $2.8 million. Versus the $200 billions of iPhones alone.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They weren't entirely wrong. The numbers don't lie. They just don't say what the author claims it does.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's directly in the headline: Gen Z is ditching the iPhone. That's incorrect in two ways: A) it's at best one in fifty people buying aforementioned feature phones and B) they don't even know if all buyers replace their existing phone or buy it as an additional handset.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I have both a smartphone and a flip phone.

I kept both because the flip phone lets me make phone calls from my basement and many other places that the smartphone cannot.

I have never met anyone else with this setup.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the flip phone lets me make phone calls from my basement and many other places that the smartphone cannot.

Why? The smartphone supports everything the flip phone does. Honest question.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I guess the radio is a bit more efficient

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's still more than I expected. But it doesn't look like the dramatic turn of tides.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I think it's a fad. The moment you need a certain app or feature these feature (-less) phones become frustrating quickly.

Take the idea of taking a break from your smartphone on a vacation. You end up without a camera, without a map, without public transport apps, contact-free payment, etc.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Doubt.

Haven't seen a flip phone in use in ages and I work among the public. Even the barely functional elderly on smartphones.

Who paid for this article? What's their angle?

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Just the other day I saw an article with the exact opposite headline about how Gen z is sticking with the iPhone. Now I don't know which one is full of shit; but it's obviously one of them.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

It was about how Gen Z are rejecting "droids" in favor of iPhones

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Isn't the angle just to sound interesting/controversial/unbelievable so people click and see your ads? You know, clickbait?

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

For the past 10 years I never bought a phone for more than 300 euros.

I usually get a new phone every 3 years to have the latest tech and donate or recycle the old one.

For the last year I had an iPhone 13 pro (usually goes around 1100 euro) as a work phone and my personal Redmi Note 11 Pro I bought for 270 euros and not once I told myself: Man, this iphone is at least 3 times better than my Xiaomi. It's clearly a premium product but a middle category budget phone can match most features and even more. I still have a headphone jack, bigger 120 Hz screen, IR blaster and an amazing fingerprint sensor.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

iphone is clever marketing scheme to become a status symbol for a generation that no longer has a car as one.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Ya, this pretty much me. I had a bad experience with the budget pixel. Wouldn't recommend them.... But otherwise haven't really missed out on having a top end flagship phone at all.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yup, I'm on the Redmi train as well, got a Redmi Note 10, will probably upgrade next month or this month depending on how much money I have left after all expenses. Had it for 2 years or something and it has a crack throughout a good length of the screen otherwise I'd keep it even longer. Cost me 200 € new.

May just get the same phone you got or a newer one/alternative if I find one until then. -> Probably the Note 12 (Pro, if the features are worth it), looking at GSMArena right now. Rooting it again will be annoying though

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I though genZ only bought iPhone because of the green bubble or something?

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago

I don't trust these numbers, I really don't trust any article that talks about my generation.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This same BS headline happens every generation. As soon as any small trends form, the media latch onto it like it's gonna be the next big thing...

No, feature phones aren't gaining mass adoption again. No, feature phones aren't going to kill smartphones. It's just a subset of people deciding to downgrade, or who want to buy a secondary phone.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is a thing that isn't happening, at least not among Gen Z. What a bullshit article.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (4 children)

As a millennial, the thought of ditching my smartphone is a thought that keeps coming up.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If I was not disabled with way too much time to burn, and where the weight of a phone is ideal, I would go back to a dumb flip phone like this. Smart phones are an addiction that, at best, must be consciously managed. Heck, I'm beside my workstation procrastinating right now.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

It's after 1AM and I'm meant to be sleeping...what the heck am I doing? I'll put the phone down now, just after I post this comment and maybe just refresh my front page one more time.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

As if we needed another sign that ZDnet was trash…

I fucking hate these obviously bullshit articles. “Gen Z is using feature phones”, “Gen Z are using paper maps”, “Gen Z is doing XYZ”.

No, they aren’t. At best some sad excuse for a journalist found a handful of tweets and wrote a whole article on it like it’s a “trend”.

Look, I know “journalists” are being squeezed to produce at an unreasonable rate but if you write drivel like this then you have no business calling yourself a journalist, hell I don’t even think you can call yourself a “writer” or “contributor” either. It barely passes as writing and you are contributing nothing to society.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

These articles of "Gen Z is doing X" is always wrong lol.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If only that's allowed as a choice.

So many places assume you have a smartphone, and so many stuffs require one

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This I wish, but I doubt. I still have my old Garmin GPS and play with the idea of a flip phone but I’ve been spoiled by the smaller things like iMessage not dealing with MMS. It’s an idea I come back to occasionally, but I also think about going back to my Palm with AAA batteries for my PIM needs. Had one in semi-regular-use as recent as 2018!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I'm looking at my Palm T|X or my Psion Revo as two potential revives. The Psion was quite awesome.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Havent seen "$100 feature phone" since 2017 when my grandpa upgraded his phone
- gen z

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

The games are better for one.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm so tempted to do this.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I did it for a few months and really enjoyed it. At the end of 3 months, I realized I could achieve nearly the same thing by turning off all notifications except messages and calls and uninstalling all social media. I realized... if I have the willpower to use a dumbphone I have the willpower to keep the distraction off my smartphone. Phone usage is now 100% intentional with the right setup.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’ve considered doing this in combination with a Pine phone or other impractical but cool linux phone so that I don’t have to worry about not having at least reliable SMS and calling.

Anyone know if there is a tiny dumb phone out there that doubles as a 4G/5G hotspot?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I use a TCL Flip 2, bought it unlocked on ebay for $40. It has hotspot, mms, and emoji support (can't remember if the included keyboard has any emoji, since I use a custom one that has some, but the system can recognize and display most emoji people send). It actually runs a slimmed down version of android and you can root it and run some stuff, though most things are a pain to use. I've got signal, jerboa, and adaway running on mine, though I haven't found another browser that plays nice yet.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Personally I switched to a Qin F22 Pro to curb my smartphone addiction. Only have the essential apps installed on it. So far it has worked out well (I used to have a screen time of over 6 hours every day, now just minutes). Life feels so much more peaceful without all the notification spam I used to get, and my mind is definitely more clear now.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

and the numbers don't lie.

Righto Scott Steiner.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

They all realized a $100 phone does the same shit as a $1500 phone... There is nothing they add to the expensive phones that justify the price

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago

A $200 smartphone does the same, but the article is about feature phones.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Hell, with all of the features that are being removed these days, there's no justification for the price.

Now that LG is out of the market, I had to get a Nokia smartphone just to get an external microSD card slot and aux port.

$1000+ phone with capped internal memory for the purpose of pushing subscription cloud storage? Or a $300 phone with expandable physical storage?

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Get this removeded clickbait garbage off my feed OP

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I heard cassettes are making a comeback too.

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