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[–] [email protected] 50 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I didn't expect to see me in a comic, but okay. Thanks for calling me out in front of everyone.

But for real, I will neglect the most basic tasks like urinating or eating. However, if someone is with me, I become extraordinarily productive. It's so weird. I don't know how to explain it. It's like I suddenly have all the motivation and energy to do everything in the world. Then, when I'm alone, back to the stagnation or obsession.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Good ol' fashioned body-doubling can do wonders.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

This is a problem I have with remote work: in theory it sounds perfect for me, but in practice I don't get anything (not interesting) done when no-one is around.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I thought that was an ADHD trait.. or is this one of those symptoms that can be true for both?

But this explains why my partner will play the same game all day and nothing else, even though she has plans to work on projects and stuff.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That's me. I will get "stuck" on something for hours and hours and suddenly it's 12 midnight and I should have been in bed 2 hours ago. I just... Can't pull myself away from it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Same. This inertia is the source of all to many 02:something bedtimes and missed mornings. And when I don't have my idleness structures available, that's when I go both to and out of bed early.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Sounds a lot like hyper-focus to me too, but like most traits shared by ADHD and Autism, there are probably some subtle differences. Personally I find the inertia terminology to be more representative of my experience.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Sounds a lot like hyper-focus to me too,

No, hyperfocus, for me at least, is more like when you're reading a good book, or playing a game, and you lose track of time, because, unsurprisingly, you're focused on the activity.

This is more like knowing that you have to do something but not being able to get the energy to move. Imagine sitting on a comfortable seat in front of the fire in the winter, and you need to walk the dog. You're already feeling tired and sleepy. Outside is really cold and it's raining that horrible type of rain that manages to get in everywhere. The dog is lying on a blanket looking very happy, but you know you really should disturb him because he needs a walk, but it won't hurt to put it off for a little while, maybe just to see if the rain stops.

Now imagine that feeling dialled up to 11, and you're getting close.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Not so subtle I guess. I've experienced both these to varying degrees so I've just been lumping them into the same thing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I do nothing for 3 days a week. Literally nothing. Even forcing myself to play a videogame with my family takes a lot.

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[–] lasuertemia 8 points 11 months ago

Yeah I thought so too. Body doubling is similar to what they’re suggesting here and is often recommended for ADHDers.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago

Today I learned a thing about myself. It's probably why I get so locked down, waiting for some scheduled event. Like if I have a thing at 3 pm, I can't start anything else, cuz I might leave it half done.

Or wanting to start things like a Pathfinder campaign with my kids or game dev. I don't know how to start.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago

Any task or activity outside my normal routine takes tremendous mental effort to perform. It can be done and usually turns out to be trivial, but taking that first step can take hours to months. If it's a new activity, it becomes much easier if I have a friend with me.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago (2 children)

This is very relatable for me. I often find my internal voice shouting at my body to either do something or stop doing something, and my body just refuses to cooperate. And then of course I start to feel guilty/ashamed when it becomes clear that I should have done the thing.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

I start to feel guilty/ashamed

Which makes it even harder to engage. Once the guilt and anxiety get bad enough, I frantically try to complete the task before seriously upsetting others. It's never ending cycle of anxiety, guilt, despair, and relief.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The cycle is horrid, especially when I know I'm stuck in it and doing... well, the same thing I've been doing the past two hours and now it's 10:44am and I... wait it's 12:16pm and I'm sti... fuck, where did the day go and why am I still in bed.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Ugh those disappearing days are the absolute worst. I hate when I spend an entire week looking forward to the weekend and then Saturday rolls around and I spend like 7 hours scrolling on my phone

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Looking at myself now and it's two and a half hours since I woke up and I'm still doing the same.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago

Inertia. I hate that word. I've been hearing it my entire life from my father, who clearly noticed this trait of mine, but instead of helping me he turned it into a means of piling on guilt and shame. "You have too much inertia." "You need to stop having so much inertia." "Why aren't you fighting the inertia? You said you wanted to do this."

I hate that word.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago

I have never been more seen than this comic.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I'm pretty sure this is an adhd thing because that's almost everyone I know including myself.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

There's a lot of overlap between autism and ADHD. This sounds very similar to executive dysfunction on one end and hyperfocus on the other.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

I have both autism and ADHD, and whilst it's difficult to draw the line between the two, I do have some instances of inertia that feel more ADHD flavour than autism. I've also seen many of my ADHD friends struggling with something like this too, but it seems like it works differently than autistic inertia.

I think that there's a decent chance that understanding autistic inertia will help us to understand ADHD inertia, even if they're distinct modes

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago

Oh, hah. Funny you should post this right now of all times.

Yes, I get this, a lot. This is the first time I've seen it explained this way and given a name. When I start something I can stick with it for a while, even to the point where I don't eat or sleep or take breaks. I have a very hard time forcing myself to go to bed, or climb out of bed in the morning, even when I want to. Like, this is legitimately something I struggle with.

The reason I say this was funny is because I was just done posting something elsewhere. For context, I'm struggling with a bit of anxiety and depression at the moment, and one of my unhealthy behaviors is to dwell on things in my head. I was lamenting about how it seems that everyone apart from me seems to have this weird ability to just "not think" about things or do something else to distract them.

I wonder if the thing I feel I'm "lacking" is caused by this autistic inertia thing. I know the imagery is problematic, but it kind of feels like this is the missing piece of the puzzle as to why I'm having such a hard time and people's advice isn't working. At the very least, it's almost certainly why I'm having trouble doing the other things people say help depression, like going to bed on time, eating well, exercising, etc.

Or maybe I'm just overanalyzing things, and all of this is just normal depression symptoms. Blegh.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago

Me. I. This.

I be this do thing.

This is why I'm not getting up and getting coffee right now.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago

I like to say that mass equals inertia.

So yes, our brains have a lot of inertia, because they have a lot of mass.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

Huh the finger trick sounds neat. I'll try to remember that one.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

There's so many times I've completed a frustrating task off of this inertia and pretty much that alone. On the bright side it's gotten be a grade of 110% on a few occasions.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Where can I read more about it? I think I have severe issues with that, preventing me from doing even some basic things.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Thank you very much

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

Someone actually put it into words…

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Brain - I need to go to bed!

Body - Doom scrolls until 3am!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

Yeah my wife has some problems like this. She has no trouble starting tasks but sometimes I have to seriously put my foot down to make her eat, sleep, or just stop and breathe before she has a meltdown

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Huh, I think I get a version of this as well, but not as bad. God I've HAD that toothbrush conversation with myself before.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Same, I've had the toothbrush conversation but about my computer mouse or music keyboard, my artistic inertia is even more sensitive than my everyday autistic inertia

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

This has always been a thing for me, but becoming chronically ill and fatigued has made it so much worse.
I actually feel like (and often comment to myself) that I'm only able to get myself to the next room by force of inertia and my legs just kind of going along with it rather than me actually moving them, and on the rare occasion I actually manage to get some tasks done I will try to keep the momentum going and do as much as I can even when I'm in immense pain, just because I know that once I stop, I'm done for a while.
Good to know yet another one of my guilt-inducing "habits" is just how my brain is..

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

I feel seen.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

i dream about programming myself, like scheduling routines. just dream, but today i will do it again: maybe with alarms and dedicated music.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

Shit. I thought I was just lazy but this is me in the comic

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Holy hell this hits hard

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Yuuup. 100% me. It's one of the greatest difficulties for me. There are many but none get me as stuck as this one because it ends up affecting all aspects of my life.

I sometimes can be stuck for months at a time, barely able to do anything productive and when I do get moving, I can't stop until I'm having a meltdown.

I absolutely need someone in my life to help get me moving and to stop moving when it's time to stop.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

I will definitely try this thing out, truly I feel so happy reading this out

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

I feel this so much.

I wanna play a game!

Body: nope, you're gonna keep doing this thing you're already doing.

Nooooooo, game!

Body: hahahahaha no.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Holy shit what?

I definitely do this...

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