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Hello there. Somehow, Star Wars memes have returned. It's not a trap, this is where the fun begins.

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[–] [email protected] 159 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (5 children)

A valid criticism. Coming from the mouth of something trying to replace it with something worse. A classic villain move.

I did enjoy the old EU Luke being a more reformist and grounded iteration of Jedi teachings. He started by rejecting Yoda’s warnings not to try and save his friends. He put friends over the high minded ideals of Jedi enlightenment right there in Empire Strikes Back. Then in ROTJ he spent the entire movie rejecting the obvious approach of simply killing Vader, instead trying to reach Anakin. Over and over Luke put people he cared about over esoteric codes.

(Remember when the original trilogy and much of the EU establishing Luke was written, the prequels and Clone Wars hadn’t been fleshed out, and Jedi were implied to be even more high minded and classical than they were shown in the prequels).

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I'm convinced that Count Dooku was a character quickly shoehorned in as a villain when the filmmakers got pushback from execs for having Jar Jar Binks as the actual Sith Lord (with Palpatine merely being the Apprentice).

It all makes sense (r*ddit)

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago (2 children)

What execs? The Prequels are basically the highest budget indie film project ever. Lucas had total financial and creative control.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

I did a rewatch of the prequels just to show a friend all the Darth Jar Jar evidence that never comes to fruition. We were robbed of a better experience.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Man, I really wish that all went somewhere.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (6 children)

“You know what would be really interesting to do? Don’t denounce me as a Stalinist but, for example – it’s my old temptation – to rewrote Star Wars… presenting Palpatine and Darth Vader as good progressive egalitarian centralist fighting reactionary feudalist, all the Jedi bullshit. It would tell a completely different story, from the others point. What do they [Jedi] stand for? All that, ‘Republic’, what strange of Republic is when you have a Princess Leila, knights, kings and so on? No, Palpatine the Emperor and Darth Vader, they are - my god - progressive Bonapartist revolutionaries trying to get rid of the old world.”

From: Žižek on Reshooting Star Wars https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_DroaGggbc

But tbh I think that if we take the original trilogy, the Rebels are cleary fighting a reactionary imperialist power, ie. an analogy to the Vietnam war

[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 months ago (1 children)

As ive grown older i find myself disagreeing more and more with the jedi whom as a child i idolised as paragons of good. But palpatine, vader, and the empire are so many things before being "poor good revolutionaries" trying to take down the status quo simply from the good of their golden hearts. Theres always more than 2 choices people :)

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago

Andor did a good job of not giving a shit about the Jedi and also showing how terrible the fascist empire was. The whole prison episodes were really amazing.

Tap for spoilerAnd all those prisoners for some hinges in the Death Star cannon.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago

But tbh I think that if we take the original trilogy, the Rebels are cleary fighting a reactionary imperialist power, ie. an analogy to the Vietnam war

Lucas was very explicit that this was always the intent. It's not reallt subtle honestly, asymmetric jungle freedom fighters fighting wealthy imperialist?

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The Sith and the Empire didn't help anyone either though, they made existence considerably worse for everyone other than a select few. They weren't saviours or good guys, they were evil despots who sought to use lies to overthrow the existing power structure so they could fill the void with their totalitarianism.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

What this meme is pointing out though is that they didn't just use lies to overthrow the existing power structure, they also used truths.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago

Any complex truth can be twisted when it is overly simplified and points are selectively chosen to support the bigger lie.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

You use truths to make lies seem more believable

[–] [email protected] 35 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The Council needed age limits and term limits.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yoda's husband Paul was investigated for insider trading because of some extremely well timed trades just prior to battles with the empire.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago

Damn that's some crooked lore.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Tales of the Jedi did a really good job fleshing Dooku out. many star wars villains are unambigiously evil- that's what happens when dark wizardry is very real and a viable career path i guess- but Dooku really thought he was doing the right thing at first, like a more selfless Anakin. a lot of Star Wars media does a great job illustrating that the Republic and the Jedi were deeply flawed, but don't make the jump to saying that many if not most planets joined the CIS in good faith for that reason- i guess because the new non-droids we see in the CIS are all asshats or aforementioned evil wizards, but still! the fight against the republic and the rebellion against the empire were essentially the same conflict from a certain point of view...

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

This is a big reason why I personally like episodes 1-3 more than 4-6. It's just more interesting because neither side is 100% good or 100% bad, and there's a couple times where you're like "wait, the bad guy actually has a point", or "are the good guys really doing the right thing here?". That sort of conflict makes for much better storytelling and more interesting characters, especially when compared to the run-of-the-mill hero's journey story and characters in 4-6.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Putting the right guy in power never worked historically since power corrupts. The power structure is the problem. That's one of the core ideas of anarchism

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I mean, it has worked historically, just extremely rarely. Singapore was one such recent example.

The issue is that people die and the next person usually fucks everything up again.

Anarchy has similar issues.

The real problem is just us; humans.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That's the next core idea: power structures attract the wrong people. Take Stalin who was worse than Lenin. Lenin had benevolent ideas but got corrupted, Stalin took that position with bad intentions from the start.

Fatalism only serves the status quo.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

It's also one of the main ideas behind the American constitution but we try to regulate power with checks and balances but because it's kinda hard to understand having multiple leaders that rule over different parts of the government and make sure no one gets corrupt people over time seem to have only given a shit about who is in charge of the military and now we have presidents that can effect normal citizens by enacting laws and are unanimously considered our leader

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago

Too bad the person he's talking to is far more corrupt than Yoda.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago

I read the text before even looking at the bottom picture and then realized I was making literally the exact same face lol perfect

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago

This is why Dooku made a shitty Sith. His underlying reasons were just, but didn't stop to think about who he was hooking up with. He's ultimately a tragic figure of someone who meant well and fucked it up.

Sith ethos doesn't work like that. It's a self-centered philosophy; you gain power for the sake of doing what you please. Palatine was never going to have Dooku as an apprentice long term.

Anakin's reasons were selfish. His relationship with Padme was always toxic, immature, and selfish. Him wanting to save her was fundamentally selfish. It wasn't for her sake as a person apart from Anakin. That's exactly the kind of behavior the Sith philosophy encourages.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago

One set of assholes talking trash about another set of assholes. Neither completely evil or completely good.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I never noticed but, is he pouring wine over ice?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

There are a some type of wines that you can enjoy on ice during summer in France. So nothing too alarming here. But don't do that with a Pomerol or I'll chop your head myself.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I thought the old lore said light/dark had to be in balance, or bad shit starts going down

[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Lucas had an uninituative meaning of “balance”. It wasn’t light and dark being equal, but dark side users being eliminated.

A better word would have been “tranquility”. If the force is naturally a calm lake, then dark side users are making waves I suppose is a clearer analogy.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Nono... There was no mistake there.

Before the Clone Wars, there were lots of Jedi everywhere in the Galaxy, and only a couple of Sith.

Anakin did bring balance.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago (8 children)

Nope, Lucas meant the dark side being wiped out.

Lucas’ intention was that Anakin brought balance, eventually, by killing Palpatine and then himself rejecting the dark side. Thus wiping out the Sith.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago

George can let us take it from here. He's done enough damage.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

But then Disney said "hey! We'd rather make an endless river of money!" and pulled a new empire and sith lord out of thin air to make another movie.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Tried googling some key phrases and just came across a comment about it being from the Clone Wars novelization. I'm not sure which book that would be though.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Star Wars The Clone Wars by Karen Travis

Chapter 9

The quote being anti-Jedi pretty much gave away the author

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

God I wish she'd finished the republic/imperial commando series. The only reason i dont read it once every year is because it hurts too much to know that theres no new book to round it out and complete it.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

This is essentially Arcane's Heimerdinger.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Sith are just The Satanic Temple with cool glowing sticks

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I think not. I've never hear of the Satanic Temple rolling into a Sunday School and slaughtering all the children.

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